Comments on: The Scent of Forgiveness and Redemption http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/ Perfume Reviews from Around the World, as long as the Credit Card Holds out. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:37:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mimi http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-86483 Mimi Mon, 12 May 2008 11:48:19 +0000 http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-86483 I've been tempted out of lurking by this terrific discussion Famously, the scent of grace is the scent of roses. I had a supersitious Catholic upbringing and was taught that miracles are always accompanied by the most wonderful heavenly smell of roses blossoming, which emanates from nowhere (or from heaven, presumably, a divine effluvium). I know something about unforgivingness (no soap opera here either) and I'd say it is the smell of ice, or of obdurate stone, chilly and slaty. I’ve been tempted out of lurking by this terrific discussion

Famously, the scent of grace is the scent of roses. I had a supersitious Catholic upbringing and was taught that miracles are always accompanied by the most wonderful heavenly smell of roses blossoming, which emanates from nowhere (or from heaven, presumably, a divine effluvium).

I know something about unforgivingness (no soap opera here either) and I’d say it is the smell of ice, or of obdurate stone, chilly and slaty.

]]> By: Vasily http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84686 Vasily Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:40:47 +0000 http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84686 The piece that I think is missing here is repentance ... one would hope that if we are forgiven, that we will repent ... but neither is contingent on the other person doing the other: both repentance and forgiveness must be freely given. And both are prerequisites for salvation, whether you define that in religious or more secular spiritual terms. I would nominate three Tauer fragrances: L'Air du Desert Marocain, warm spices with the cold of the desert at its heart, for forgiveness; Incense Extreme, austere and otherworldly but with something cheering about it, for repentance; and the lush Incense Rose, with its abundance and ripeness over a bed of incense that recalls both of the other themes, for salvation. For those who would like to read further on forgiveness, the International Forgiveness Institute has some good resources & a list of books on the topic: http://www.forgiveness-institute.org The piece that I think is missing here is repentance … one would hope that if we are forgiven, that we will repent … but neither is contingent on the other person doing the other: both repentance and forgiveness must be freely given. And both are prerequisites for salvation, whether you define that in religious or more secular spiritual terms. I would nominate three Tauer fragrances: L’Air du Desert Marocain, warm spices with the cold of the desert at its heart, for forgiveness; Incense Extreme, austere and otherworldly but with something cheering about it, for repentance; and the lush Incense Rose, with its abundance and ripeness over a bed of incense that recalls both of the other themes, for salvation.

For those who would like to read further on forgiveness, the International Forgiveness Institute has some good resources & a list of books on the topic:

http://www.forgiveness-institute.org

]]> By: risa http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84683 risa Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:35:28 +0000 http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84683 wow, Patty, this was a fantastic and thought-provoking post. I loved your choice of SL Iris Silver Mist for forgiveness, particularly since I find it so melancholy and a scent I can only carry off at certain times in my life. For me, since both requesting and granting forgiveness is so difficult, and occasionally easy to give lip service to but not to truly feel, I wanted this to be represented by a fragrance that could disappear but actually shows itself... a scent that isn't skin yet seems to want to be. A struggle scent, something that challenges yet soothes. I chose Montale's Musk to Musk. In my mind, redemption has always been fiery - not because I'm a lapsed Catholic, but because the legend of the phoenix was somehow always so tied to the concept for me. (I blame Bernie Taupin for that; the lyrics to Elton John's Grey Seal always sounded like a prayer to me.) You leave a core of yourself, burn away the old parts, and from that core springs newness. Because of that, for me redemption is Passage D'Enfer - though for a different reason than Tara chose it for forgiveness. On me, PDE isn't incensey at all; it's fierce, fiery, full of power and strength. The name, rite of passage or passage through hell, seems particularly apt for something dealing with both the phoenix imagery as well as the path to redemption. Thanks again for such a great post! wow, Patty, this was a fantastic and thought-provoking post. I loved your choice of SL Iris Silver Mist for forgiveness, particularly since I find it so melancholy and a scent I can only carry off at certain times in my life. For me, since both requesting and granting forgiveness is so difficult, and occasionally easy to give lip service to but not to truly feel, I wanted this to be represented by a fragrance that could disappear but actually shows itself… a scent that isn’t skin yet seems to want to be. A struggle scent, something that challenges yet soothes. I chose Montale’s Musk to Musk.

In my mind, redemption has always been fiery – not because I’m a lapsed Catholic, but because the legend of the phoenix was somehow always so tied to the concept for me. (I blame Bernie Taupin for that; the lyrics to Elton John’s Grey Seal always sounded like a prayer to me.) You leave a core of yourself, burn away the old parts, and from that core springs newness. Because of that, for me redemption is Passage D’Enfer – though for a different reason than Tara chose it for forgiveness. On me, PDE isn’t incensey at all; it’s fierce, fiery, full of power and strength. The name, rite of passage or passage through hell, seems particularly apt for something dealing with both the phoenix imagery as well as the path to redemption.

Thanks again for such a great post!

]]> By: slf http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84678 slf Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:46:40 +0000 http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84678 Funny about the Chanel, too, considering so many consider the family as a whole to be haughty...and grace is anything but... Funny about the Chanel, too, considering so many consider the family as a whole to be haughty…and grace is anything but…

]]> By: slf http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84677 slf Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:45:15 +0000 http://perfumeposse.com/2008/04/23/the-scent-of-forgiveness-and-redemption/#comment-84677 Interesting...my thoughts immediately turned to Chanel when it came to grace...though of course the mind continues to turn... Interesting…my thoughts immediately turned to Chanel when it came to grace…though of course the mind continues to turn…

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