A Different Sort of Pong

It’s late August, last bank holiday Monday of the season. We’re due rain to see the month out. The huge chestnut tree in the village is much diminished this year. Just too hot for it.

Following on from Tom’s skank-fest last week (no, we don’t coordinate posts but …) a vaguely similar theme but different. I’m sure that makes sense.

It’s been a long while since I’ve worn outright pong – ie, things that announce themselves as serious animalics. For a long stretch I sought them out but when Lutens MKK turned out to be a gentle skin musk on me I decided that for whatever reason this genre just wasn’t to be for me.

That isn’t to say I don’t like pong – I do. But, my pong has had to come from different places. Some leathers can do it, some roses depending on what they are built on (eg, Lutens Rose de Nuit does it). Saffron in stupid amounts is fine (Theo Fennell Scent).

Totally by accident I discovered that an apricot note on me can me serious dirty (again referencing Rose de Nuit in this regard).

This can be the fruit but it can also come from the flower osmanthus.

Osmanthus is a small white flower which appears in clusters. Per the AI popup on my computer this smells of ‘peaches, apricots, nectarines, with a subtle suede-like undertone’. Me, I get gamey, suede-like apricots. Sigh.

Anyway, today it’s a couple of new-to-me fragrances with a strong osmanthus note.

First off, Marissa Zappas’ (who we did last week to not much success – much better this time round) Ching Shih. This is one of three concept perfumes based on strong women. Ching Shih was a pirate queen back in the 1800s. Released in 2022, notes include spices, osmanthus (there we go), orris, incense, gunpowder and myrrh.

This starts spicy, not quite ripe fruit. So, not sweet. I’m thinking cumin up top but cumin when it smells spicy not dirty. Quite quickly we’re into cumin-apricot as the osmanthus kicks in. Boy, is that a good way to start a perfume. You want to glue your nose to your wrist.

In the middle of its development, it’s got the feel of amber – ie, tactile, soft – but not the smell. Amber tends to go sweet on me — this does not do that. It’s more a good, very ripe apricot with some stank and a bit of roughness maybe from the orris.

In the end it maintains that ripe apricot smell with an undercurrent of incense. I don’t know what gun powder smells like but there is a whisper of smoky powder so who knows.

Sadly, this is not that strong. But maybe that’s me and my lower body temp.

Second up is Les Indémodables’ (the timeless ones) Cuir de Chine from 2016. Really nice bottle. Just had to say that (https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Les-Indemodables/Cuir-de-Chine-44322.html).

Per the Les Indomodables website, ‘A fresh, elegant and surprising trail paying tribute to suede and precious leather …’.

As the name suggests, leather and other stuff. Notes include alpine clary sage, osmanthus, jasmine, tobacco. Nope, no listed leather note.

But, this definitely smells leather to me, opening as a beautiful, smooth leather-apricot.

I then get leather with apricots and jasmine, with things becoming a bit juicy and the pong amped up with jasmine.

The juiciness recedes and leaves a sophisticated understated leather which very nicely supports the apricot and jasmine fragrances. This is pong but refined (and the leather is nowhere near my beloved Dark Lord nor is it the plushier Lutens Daim Blond).

As with Ching Shih, this is not that strong and it dries down to something somewhat sweeter than CS. Perhaps because there is a fruitier aspect to it.

These are both very nicely done. If you’re looking for a quieter, more refined animalic both  would be worth a try.

Pics: Wiki, Pexels

NB: US perfume imports PSA — I don’t know if readers were aware of the de minimis rule changes for the US. Per Google AI: “The U.S. de minimis rule, which previously allowed duty-free imports of shipments valued at $800 or less, was suspended globally by an Executive Order signed in July 2025, effective August 29, 2025. This means that shipments of perfume and all other goods, regardless of origin, will now be subject to U.S. import duties and taxes, eliminating the previous exemption for low-value packages. This change significantly increases costs for businesses and consumers involved in cross-border e-commerce”.

British perfumer Sarah McCartney (4160 Tuesdays) posted about this on Facebook on Saturday basically saying this means she is unlikely to be able to export into the US any longer – either individual bottles from her website or to the larger resellers. It might be worth investigating if your favourite smaller UK and EU/non-EU Europe, etc, brands could be affected by this. Sarah also noted this shouldn’t affect the availability of larger brands, though she said nothing about potential price rises on items from large producers.

Here is a bit of the maths from her: “On 14th August we found that some of our US customers had already received invoices for the 10% tariff charge, plus state taxes plus administration, charged by DHL.

On a £50 ($68.50) order, the charges were $20, an additional 29%”.

Just a reminder: the purchaser in the US pays these extra duties, not the exporter in another country.

NB No 2, per Huff Post 24/08/25: “The end of an exemption on tariff duties for low value packages coming into the United States is causing multiple international postal services to pause shipping as they await more clarity on the rule … Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Italy said they will stop shipping most merchandise to the U.S. effective immediately. France and Austria will follow on Monday”.

  • alityke says:

    Update on shipping to the US from the UK.
    Royal Mail has declined to ship to the US since last Friday & will continue to do so. They have joined almost all shipping services across continental Europe & the UK.
    Royal Mail will continue to deliver letters to the US

    • cinnamon says:

      And now Australia, NZ, Japan, India, South Korea and Singapore have suspended some or all deliveries.

      Might be an idea to buy that bottle at Lucky Scent before a potential price rise.

  • March says:

    Hahahaha that titan arum! I smelled one at the botanical gardens in DC, years ago. It was really something. That Ching Shih sounds like a fragrance I would very much enjoy. And thanks for the update about imports/tariffs.

    • cinnamon says:

      It is that plant. I think there’s one at Kew Gardens. Ching Shih is definitely worth a sniff and Lucky Scent stocks it, so samples can be found.

  • Tom says:

    I second alityke on Daim Blond but it’s one that you have to go steadily with. Too much can be Too Much..

    I read that shipping to the US is kaput until further notice. Yay. Not.

    • cinnamon says:

      I am going to have to have another go at Daim Blond. Ironically, Serge isn’t available at our local department store, which has a decent offer otherwise.

      It appears there isn’t clarity on paperwork for the various EU and non-EU Europe postal services so they waiting for more of that. We’ve already experienced this kind of stupidity with Brexit.

  • Portia says:

    LOVE an Osmanthus leather Cinnamon.
    Did you ever try Rahele by NVC or Cuir amethyst by Armani Prive?
    Portia xx

  • Dina C. says:

    When my first child was a baby, he was gifted some powder that was scented with osmanthus, and that was my introduction to this note. Loved that soft powdery, fleshy scent. Right now there’s a scent called EPC Jasmine Osmanthus high on my wish list that I want. Beautiful floral. To me, osmanthus has this tender quality to it. I don’t perceive it as skanky. Hermes Cuir d’Ange in a suede like leather that has that kind of softness too. I wonder if it has apricot or osmanthus in it.

    • cinnamon says:

      Interesting. Tender is not what I get from osmanthus. It’s wonderful the different things different people get from different notes.

    • Calrayo says:

      I definitely hear you on the tender side of osmanthus! I have a big osmanthus bush in my back yard which I planted for the scent, and when it’s in full bloom, I can smell it from down the block. For me, it smells like home.

      • cinnamon says:

        I have a huge jasmine growing along one fence that in high bloom I can smell inside the house all day long. It’s glorious. I wonder if I could grow osmanthus here or in a pot…

  • alityke says:

    I saw Sarah’s original Instagram reel a couple of weeks about the changes & posted about it. At that time she did plan to continue to supply her the US stockists. Maybe those stockist changed their minds?
    Sarah also said that if the buyer declines to pay the tariff etc, then the goods will be returned to sender. The sender will get a bill for the tariffs, add ons & return shipping!!! Just for attempting to send.
    The US will be in limbo, just like the UK was after Boris’s Hard Brexit.
    Ching Shi has been nagging me for some time but it is so expensive. It’s currently sold out at saintecellier.com so I have more time to let the nagging cease & desist. Such a fascinating perfume.
    Cuir de Chine is equally gorgeous but as you say far fruitier.
    I am a die hard Daim Blond fan. So much so my bottle has gone walkabout. It’ll be lurking in a handbag somewhere. It’ll turn up.

    • cinnamon says:

      One thing she says in the FB post is that things are changing very quickly. She didn’t explicitly say no more resellers but that it might well be very hard and she was already trying to think that through.

      I remind myself we have no real access here to independent US perfumers because it’s simply not cost effective to have something shipped here and I’ve been ok with that.

      The last thing of significance I bought from the US was more than a year ago and it wasn’t perfume. It cost me shipping and VAT to get it here and while I adore it that was a lesson learned. Be happy with what you have easier access to.

      I don’t see either of these going on to my list (which currently really only contains Eshal and that’s going to be part financed via Xmas gifts) though I keep going back to my Ching Shi sample.

      • alityke says:

        Eshal has replaced Dark Lord & Smoke on your list? Or did you get decants/ travel sizes of them to satisfy the itch?
        I’m still playing with Eshal. She’s still tainted with the remembrance of preserving cherries. My own fault.
        I broke my no/low buy & ordered St Clair Gardener’s Glove. I got a smidge from a friend & adored its meadowy green & earthy leather softness.

        • cinnamon says:

          I’ve had a decant of DL for a while and got a bottle of Smoke for last bday. So, yes, Eshal is it. Oh, and got a decant of VB 21:50 Reverie. Gardener’s Glove sound interesting and what a great name!