March’s Two Scents

Two scents today.

First, Lee blogged on Serge Lutens´ new ginger scent, Five O´Clock au Gingembre, yesterday. It occurred to me that this would be a fine time to plug Roger & Gallet´s Gingembre.

I love ginger – ginger tea, gingersnaps, ginger beer. Is R&G Gingembre a replacement for Serge, which I haven´t smelled yet? Of course not. But while you wait to get your hands on the Serge, R&G is a great ginger – somewhere between the rooty bite of raw ginger and the effervescence of ginger beer. (Digression: and you haven´t really lived until you´ve drunk a shandy, IMHO. Ignore all the disgusting recipes online; what you want is 6 oz. of a good ginger beer, and 6 oz. of your favorite lager). The web says something about “oriental flowers and musk” in the Roger & Gallet. I get a burst of ginger, some light florals, maybe bergamot, and a nice clean musk at the finish. A great spring spritz.

Okay, today´s focus is on…

Estee Lauder Bronze Goddess (and sorry for the lousy image, the best I can do, the lotion’s in the yellow bottle). A couple years ago, many of you flipped for the Tom Ford Estee Lauder Collection Azurees – the body oil and the Soleil Eau Fraiche, both of which have been discontinued as part of a limited licensing agreement with Tom Ford, if I have my facts straight. (And none of these bear any resemblance to the original 1969 Azuree, a leathery chypre as legendarily b@ll-busting as Private Collection and Youth Dew. It´s still in production and I´d no doubt have smelled it by now if they didn´t keep the bottles hidden behind the counters and deny its existence.)

TF/EL Azuree Soleil Eau Fraiche’s notes were gardenia, coconut, orange blossom, jasmine, magnolia, myrrh, bergamot, mandarin, amber, sandalwood, vetiver, and caramel. (In the interests of not driving myself crazy, I’m going to refer to that one as Azuree Soleil for the rest of this review.) Azuree Soleil sounds heavy, but it wasn´t – it was a light, beachy fragrance that smelled like what you´d imagine the world´s finest tanning oil might smell like, maybe with some damp hair and warm sand in the background. Lovely as it was, it wasn´t quite me. It was too … something. There was a note in there that put me off, and I wish I had a sample of it to remind me, as well as to better compare it to the new Bronze Goddess, a riff on the theme, so to speak. I look forward to comments from any of you who´ve done a direct comparison.

Having test-driven Bronze Goddess several times, I may have to pony up for a bottle. It comes in an Eau Fraiche, a body oil, and a Luminous Body Lotion. The Bloomies near me didn´t have the body oil (possibly my preferred concentration), but I was wowed by the shimmery body lotion, which generally isn´t my thing. The sheen is golden and subtle as these things go (no big glittery sparkles). I´m fair, and mostly past the glitter stage, if you catch my meaning, but I would love this on my collarbone, neck and arms in the summer. By the way, this is part of their Bronze Goddess makeup collection, which I believe has been around a season or two (correct me if I´m wrong). There´s also this hilariously ginormous mirrored compact, which I can´t decide if I like or hate – it weighs a ton, but looks kinda fab … wait, where were we?

The notes I have from the EL press blurb, stripped of breathy descriptors and other extraneous b.s., are: coconut milk, sandalwood, vanilla, vetiver, myrrh, mandarin, bergamot, lemon, orange, gardenia, jasmine, magnolia, orange blossom, lavender. Don´t let that list scare you; it’s as light as the original, and the notes are quite similar.

If I had to guess (and it is a guess, without Azuree Soleil in front of me) this is very close in smell, and if you liked that, you´ll probably like this. I prefer this one. It doesn´t do much in the way of development; again, it´s the world´s finest suntan oil, with that buttery, beachy note I love in Creed´s Virgin Island Water, although this is a much less tropical scent. The gardenia and jasmine are very muted and not indolic, and the coconut is not so pronounced as to give you that Hawaiian Tropic cheap tanning oil vibe. The whole herbal/citrus side of this is really subtle. Instead, I´m swept up in the emotion, which is, basically – let´s pull on the bathing suit and a kicky sundress, grab the new copy of Allure and a pack the cooler, and head to the beach. It´s not a Serge Lutens kind of genius, but it´s genius nonetheless.

What´s different with this one? Well, maybe nothing (again: please report in from the field!) But I´m reminded of a passage in Diane Ackerman´s A Natural History of the Senses where she interviews uber-nose Sophia Grojsman, and Grojsman talks about searching for a kind of seamlessness when developing a scent, and how if something sticks out incorrectly it´s problematic. Something always stuck out in Azuree Soleil that I didn´t like, a perfume-y note that made it too much for the beach – like all the bugs would be after you. Too much amber? Gardenia? Bronze Goddess, on the other hand, is perfect. Pardon me, I have to go shave my legs and dig up my bronzer – summer is, apparently, on the way.

FRAGRANCE CHALLENGE – SHOUT OUT TO PATTY: Looking at the notes for the original 1969 Estee Lauder Azuree (basil, jasmine, citrus, artemisia, vetiver, rose, patchouli, oakmoss, amber) I decided it sounded like just the ticket – for Patty. Hey, she wore Private Collection back in the day, and I am pretty sure she likes the original Youth Dude. So, I have made an unsniffed purchase, which is on its way to Patty from Estee Lauder (and they better have thrown some extra crap in there, P!) and I want Patty to do an honest, no-holds-barred review when she gets it.

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Kim
18 years ago

sorry to post so late – but you can get the original Azuree on nordstrom.com, probably bloomie’s and sak’s too. Great looking bottle – hope it shows up now on the perfumed court for sampling (hint, hint):d

rosarita
18 years ago

I am on a long weekend with my (working) spouse, in a small city with an actual mall, right across the street from our hotel. I went sniffing today and stopped by the EL counter at Carson Pirie Scotts. *sigh* No Bronze Goddess yet, no tester of Private Collection, either, and a flustered SA who’s new and knew nothing about anything I asked. Kind of disheartening, but not unusual. My mother was an Aliage lady in the early 70s, but her crustier golfer sister wore Azuree. I remember it was hard to know where the cigarettes & bourbon stopped and the perfume began; it really was *her* for a time. I think Bronze Goddess sounds pretty fabulous right now! I hope I get to smell it before I go home. Oh, as an aside – I did smell the new JLo, Deseo. Not me, but not bad, either, but the bottle looked better in pics than it did in person, IMHO./:)

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  March

March,

I’m finding that way too many SAs are like the SAs in other kinds of shops now – they don’t really work in perfume because they love perfume – they are just dropped in there because that’s where the slot needed to be filled. I don’t know if it’s them, the shop, what….but it’s sad..and when you couple it with their aggressiveness it’s really irritating. There’s some new scent out by some new, young designer (on some reality show – that’s a lot of ‘somes’, I know:-)…the SA at Macy’s/MF waxed on about the guy and the free bag and not one word about the fragrance! I only have so much nose at a time so I declined…I figured it couldn’t be all that (now watch me be wrong:o)

Has anyone here smelled the new YSL ‘elle’? I will have to resniff and retry but I could swear there’s ginger in there, as well. I know there is pinkberry but the SA actually had ahold of my wrist and was stroking my arm! so I was too bemused by that to pay much attention!

I swear………

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  March

The bag is sort of faux-messenger, with some sort of tiger on it, if that helps. Other than that I have NO idea who he is.

On the Elle, I agree – sans spray paint would be a better way to try it out!

Btw – been meaning to say this for TWO DAYS NOW!

Congrats on the Time interview!

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  rosarita

Rosarita –

That’s EXACTLY how I feel about T42! My mom wore Shalimar for evening and T42 smells like the inside of her evening bag, with the hint of Shalimar on her handkerchief, the gold cigarette case (with the everpresent tobacco in the bottom of the bag – she smoked unfiltered cigs), the fur stoles with the tails….and the smell of a good Scotch pervading everything.

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  March

You are incredibly kind! I lack the experience to differentiate much of anything in fragrance beyond the obvious basics (just gimme a minute, tho:-) but I do know what stuff smells ‘like’, if that makes sense? That’s what I love about certain scents – they conjure up an emotion in about 5.2 seconds…and the emotions just keep washing over me, shifting and swirling, as the fragrance goes through its evolution..

…btw (again, off topic) – I tried the YSL ‘Elle’ yesterday – whew! Lemme tell you: I was spray-painting boxes…and it got so I was preferring the spray-paint to the scent!b-( (I think that’s the right emoticon) TWO HOURS LATER it finally settled down to something inoffensive and okay. Might smell better on somebody else or maybe I should try it without the spray paint?

Robin
18 years ago

I think I am going to be the only one who liked Azuree Soleil better than Bronze Goddess?

18 years ago

I think it is kinda citrusier on me than Azuree. But otherwise it is more or less the same fragrance. If I get some tan this summer…and with golden sandals and a white sundress..oh yeah baby Bronze Goddess bottle will be mine then 🙂

violetnoir
18 years ago

Dude, I think you would love the original Azuree. Although it does have a “presence” (euphemism for “b*all-busting,” lol!), there is something in it that is very effervescent…like bubbly gingerale. 😉 It is an acquired taste, no doubt about it. In fact it took me several tries before I fell for it, but once I did, I fell hard.

Hugs!

aelily
18 years ago

As it is still only 30 degrees outside and we have a snow storm heading towards us here in the Midwest, I am willing to coat myself in Coppertone and/or Hawaiian Tropic to smell summer, sun and fun. I am so desperate I might have to brave the Mall to stop at EL on the way home from work to get a sniff of Bronze Goddess.:”>

minette
18 years ago

i love the original azuree, too. it is smoky and a little leathery on me – nothing else i’ve smelled smells like it. and if you don’t love it on the body – it is a wonderful aroma to have in the air. they really shouldn’t hide the azuree. it’s one of their best.

the soleil version of it was just an oily mess to my nose. i was surprised it got so many raves online. yick. will sniff the new one out of curiosity but with limited expecations. scents for the beach are not my thing.

Admin
18 years ago

OH, no!!! You’re not sending some ‘orrible thing to me, are you? Me, your friend, who sends you nice stuff, except that Human Existence and the Black Musk thing, but those were aberrations, I didn’t mean it!!! Is this payback?

*hiding in corner, avoiding postalperson*~:>

mikeperez23
18 years ago

I love ginger and can’t wait to smell the Serge. The R&G I have been eyeing for a while now, after I read about it in Burr’s article on food and scents…the Origins one is nice but it doesn’t last enough on me and it doesn’t have that sparkle I look for in ginger scents.

I ‘ran into’ Bronze Goddess two weeks ago at Nordstroms – it smells a LOT like AS, but has a heavier top note of citrus that made it slightly different and did not have that ‘coral salty rock’ accord I got from AS (which honestly, I loved). I have half a bottle of AS in my wardrobe, so I will use it up slowly before I head for the goddess.

And yes, as someone mentioned above, Azuree the original reminds me of Aramis. Or does Estee remind me of Azuree? Those old EL ones are confusing…

OH and completely OFF TOPIC: A little birdie told me that EL will be re-branding and re-naming Youth Dew Amber Nude (the other Tom Ford fragrance) in a few – for now, it has also vanished from EL shelves and website. So, those of you holding bottles of YDAN, keep them – they’ll probably be collectors items, right?

Malena
18 years ago

i´m not a big fan of ginger scents – but who knows, now that i like fig scents everything seems to be possible :d so far, ginger is just to fresh or whatever for me, perhaps too sporty 😕

yesterday a very lovely & generous friend send me a package with several EL samples, azuree (original) is among them 🙂 i didn´t have the time (= enough place on my hands/wrists/arms) to test it, yet. i´m just discovering the ELs. i like them quite a bit, but so far all of them (youth dew, knowing) are power house fragrances. but that isn´t bad 😉

last summer, i almost bought AS, but something stopped me – it´s just not me, i guess. mostly, i prefer more complex scents & for the few times i´m craving something lighthearted, i stick with OJ frangipani absolute.
but that won´t keep me from testing bronze goddess :)>-

donanicola
18 years ago

Putting another word in here for the original Azuree. You’re so right about the way they hide it (in Selfs in London too) and look at you funny if you ask for it. I love it but it’s BIG and reminds me of Aramis (but I liked Aramis so the similarity is a good thing to me). Great bottle too and on the its box is mention of oakmoss as an ingredient so I’m hoping it’s at scary levels! Eagerly anticipating Patty’s opinion. The Tom Ford AS is great fun. I love it for the beach holiday vibe and am so looking forward to this new incarnation. I’m wondering if the lotion will layer nicely with the TFAS? Makes me happy to think of it!

chayaruchama
18 years ago

I love ginger- the R & G is a lovely summer splash- not one I’d go for, for longevity- just refreshment.
WHAT- no Origins ?
Gingerale is VERY refreshing, and I sometimes crave their heavyduty ones.

Sniffed Bronze Goddess at Neiman’s this week.
Not sure what to think.
It’s nice, seamless.
I probably don’t need it, though- I’m a summer failure, alas.

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  chayaruchama

Summer is so difficult for us *deep* girls, isn’t it? 😕

chayaruchama
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

Indeed it is, my wild one.
[Am I really going to get to snog you in April…says she, panting in anticipation ?]

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  chayaruchama

you betcha!

Joan
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Origins has a tangy Ginger Souffle Body Cream that is very nice. It has all kinds of great oils in it to soften skin, grapeseed, olive, rice bran and apricot kernel. My skin is sooooo dry by this time of year.

Elle
18 years ago

Beach, summer, kicky sundress (a personal addiction)….brain blurs, all else fades in face of extreme longing. Reels self back in. You’ve convinced me. *Must* get my derriere to mall and purchase this ASAP. Never did get AS – not exactly sure why, but may have sensed the same dissonance you did.
The original Azuree really is delightfully ball busting. Love the stuff and am curious as to how much reformulation has gone on. Got the vintage parfum on ebay, but am wondering if I could do just as well trying to hunt it down in a store now.

Sariah
18 years ago

Looking forward to trying both of these. Regarding ginger, there is that Crazy Lilyblue solid stick called ginger something, and it totally made me giggle first time I put it on. Smelling like a big bowl of Thai curry with the ginger and coconut, and liking it, is something to giggle about.

Love the simple EL bottles with the retro colors.

Sariah
18 years ago
Reply to  March

LOL, yes you did give it to me, with that fun swap you did a while back. And I like it, but have to agree it’s not something I’m going to wear often. All settled in and good thanks, yep Sarah emailed – thanks for passing to samps on to her.

Louise
18 years ago

MMM, more ginger. Though I seriously doubt that Roger would spend any time on/with me at all. Another ginger that works for me (at times) is Susanne Lang’s Red Ginger (I think you were there, March, when I found it at Art and Flowers). Nice warm mix of the ginger, mixed spice, a touch of flower. Even lasts a bit for me. But still, I am awaiting the Serge, hoping it pleases me 😉

I have the Azuree Soleil from last summer-and it’s a lovely summer kick. My son loved it-and he rarely notes what I wear. I’ll make sure it visits you soon, doll. 🙂

Maria
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

Louise, thanks. I was interested in what you had to say about ginger. I do love ginger.

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Maria

How’s the writing coming? Thinking warm thoughts…@};-

Maria
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

Hi! The writing is coming along okay. I’m too superstitious to say any more than that. *makes some sort of sign to avert evil eye*

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  March

AS will be there…oh, and another ginger-Montale Ginger Musk-sweet, but a nice spring scent..

Lee
18 years ago

I know as much about EL as Matt knows about cooking, i.e. nada.

That Gingembre is available in my local chemists. I like it, though it doesn’t make my nose quiver.

Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Well, it’s difficult when you’re as sophisticated as me.

:d
Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

*parp*

Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

*belch*

Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

*picks nose and flicks*

Debbie
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

=))

Yeah, with that level of sophistication, I bet you *do* eat Kraft Macaroni and Cheese, secretly.

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

I was going to go all ‘oooh, serendipity’ and all that, as I just tried the R&G yesterday – then I remembered Thurs was Spritzapalooza and that was the whole point ( OT but…..I can’t wait to tell you how Delrae’s Bois de Paradis was received by my peeps…)

I tried the R&G Gingembre yesterday on a whim, whilst sniffing at the Lily of theValley options. I found it to be warm and kind of spicy but not very interesting, just sort of like a gingersnap without the ‘snap’! However, it may be that I just need to get acquainted with ginger or I don’t know what the hell I’m doing.

I wish I’d remembered Bronze Goddess but I ran out of Macy’s/MF like a scalded cat – their SAs are aggressive in a really unpleasant way – and I had appointments at Saks and Barneys (with a quick stop at Nordstrom’s to sample the Caron boutique but that is on another post)…..dang, on the BG. I’m looking forward to checking it out next trip. It sounds like a warm, breezy summer fragrance (love the white sundress/sandles image – thanks!!!)

Btw – also OT but don’t know where else to post this – my darling Douglas at Barney’s walked me through every single Serge and every single F. Malle in the joint! Wow! Pow! Kazamm! and all that. Those scents, even at the end of a long Spritzapalooza….well…I have never experienced anything like them!

I came back with a large shopping bag of samples and NO IDEA what is going to work -but I suppose, if I weren’t so ladylike I would say STOKED most definitely describes my perfume mood right now!

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  March

It took Chicago 30 years (minimum) to get to this phase. I used to have to go to NY and LA for clothes and fragrance, now I can shop in Chicago and have a good time (or ‘could’ since I now have little need for cutting-edge fashion. Foundries and couture don’t mix very well:(( Chicago is still a bit behind the curve because the population hasn’t changed all that much, yet – most of the really cutting-edge stuff is bought by tourists!

zzzzzzzz – wake up! Sociology class is in session!!:d

But Da Mare is dragging Chicago, kicking and screaming, into world-class status. Hence Barneys NEW store, which is opening in about a year – it’s going to rival NY, size-wise.:((:((:((:d

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  Musette

ummm….not sure where all those bawling emoticons came from – perhaps I am sobbing with joy?

18 years ago

Ball busting leathery chypre?

Patty, if you hate it I’ll take it off your hands… :d

Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  tmp00

Slut!

Lee
18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

:d

18 years ago
Reply to  Lee

you betcha, babe.

my last Le Labo bottle read “Sadie Thompson”..

mharvey816
18 years ago

Hey March, you can get the regular EL Azuree at the Leesburg VA EL outlet store. I saw it there as recently as last weekend. And yes, definitely b**l-busting.

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  mharvey816

I’ve recently moved to Leesburg, VA. Can you tell me where the EL outlet store is?

Tigs / Erin
18 years ago

I lurv the original Azuree (shout out to Angela!) and like and own the Azuree Soleil – darn, I didn’t know you were looking for it, should have sent you a sample. They’re so comically different that you can sort of see why the SAs are now hiding the original, as if to apologize about the name connection. (Although, I have never actually been to a Estee Lauder counter where they will admit to having Azuree at all.) The Azuree has what Angela very accurately describes as a brown sugar note that kind of tempers the screaming chypre. I don’t get a lot of leather from it, I must say, just lots of herbs and sunshine. I hope Patty will love it. The AS in the body oil totally worked for me, but it’s a completely different working, sort of fun and girly and more literal than the original.