Perfume Vagabond

First off, a shout-out to Patty, who will be on NPR at 11:40 EST this morning, as part of a Perfumes: The Guide interview with LT and TS, I guess they´re going for the blogger perspective. Go, Patty! Second, a reminder, this coming Friday we are featuring your anonymous reviews of Clinique Aromatics Elixir and Happy, and Tommy Girl, so get those reviews emailed in to perfume dot posse at gmail dot com (with the correct punctuation marks substituted for “dot” and “at”) and we´ll print them. Third, next Monday, a week from today, is another free-for-all discussion on The Guide. Because, seriously, We Need To Talk. I Have Issues. Thus far I´ve flagged reviews that make me feel smug, a couple that make me want to try (or retry) something, and a couple that kill me. Okay, on to today´s topic.

The problem with reading about scents is you may learn something. Luca Turin has spoiled two scents for me in just this way recently. In The Guide he describes 21 Costume National as an “anisic oriental” and bam! Although anise is not listed among the 21 notes, when I smell it, anise is now the dominant note of this milky woody wonder (he gives it three stars). Anise being about as welcome in my fragrance collection as a bear at a picnic, my ardor for 21 has cooled. Also, I have had an on-again off-again relationship with L´Artisan Safran Troublant for quite some time, but it appears to be on again, my having acquired one of the small coffret bottles. Then I read LT´s review (four stars) in which he talks about the wonderful interplay among the saffron, vanilla and rose. Rose! Of course! The rose note was obvious as soon as I read it. Now, the rose having moved squarely to the forefront, it hogs the stage every time I smell it. I can barely see the saffron behind it.

Vexed by these developments, I dug around in all my samples looking for something different. Kelly had sent me some other Dawn Spencer Hurwitz scents, so I checked those out. Then I turned my attention to Gail´s package full of fragrances by Liz Zorn. (Thanks Kelly and Gail!)

The great thing about perfumery is, you can have sniffed so very, very much and there are still entire lines you know nothing about. I selected two Liz Zorns to put on Grand Canyon, because Marina had blogged on it and I´d wanted to try it, and Pink Praline, because I was feeling perverse and it seemed, based on the label, to be the one thing I´d be least likely to enjoy.

LZ Pink Praline gave me an immediate masochistic satisfaction – I smiled, awaiting burial under a giant mass of what smelled like sugar and cocoa, with an odd discordant note I couldn´t place. I usually loathe chocolate in my fragrance, and this was no exception. After three minutes it quiets down quite a bit, the odd top note fades, and I began to … well, to like it. Go figure. I decided to look at the notes: pink grapefruit, cocoa, maple, dark roasted coffee, spices, cinnamon, honey, fenugreek, vanilla. The odd note at the top is the grapefruit – yes, a sweet citrus on top of cocoa. I can´t pick the coffee out until the drydown, when it becomes quite prominent. In the drydown it´s a seamless, not overly sweet gourmand confection – the smell of being in a bakery, but a nice one, and the maple/fenugreek gives an immortelle-esque twist. You choco/gourmand freaks should check this out.

LZ Grand Canyon (sweet orange, clementine, blood orange, neroli, laurel leaf, palma rosa, black pepper, labdanum, benzoin, honey, myrrh, sandalwood, spices, rose, jasmine, vetiver) starts out with a jumble of citrus, rose and laurel, and my immediate reaction was – nah. It had that kind of macerated green soup vibe that wasn´t working for me. Then the citrus fades into the spices, jasmine and woods, it becomes an warmly elegant comfort scent – the kind that´s pretty enough to wear out, more sophisticated than your favorite sweatshirt, but just as cozy. My favorite of the bunch listed in this post.

I sat out in the sun on the back porch, the first day it was warm enough to do so. I should have gotten out my sun hat. But I didn´t. Sitting there, wondering about sniffing the other Liz Zorn samples, my bad mood gone, cataloging my constant stream of perfumed thoughts (I never ordered those last DSH samples!, and do I already have a vial of Givenchy Vetyver and don´t realize it?), I suddenly understood. It wouldn´t matter if I smelled them all and never smelled them again, much less owned them. It explains my phenomenal sample collection versus my relatively sparse bottle collection. I watched those bees buzz all around me, looking for their next hit, and I realized: I am a perfume vagabond. I want to taste the honey from every single flower on this earth, and if I never own that flower… that´s okay. I´m just a bee, and it was worth it.

* * *

DSH Tamarind Paprika – this one fascinates me. Half the time – a bitter, sour, nasty, cheapo potpourri-from-hell smell. The other half of the time – an interesting tobacco-and-mulling-spices.

DSH Prana smells exactly like the inside of an Aveda store.

DSH Vanille – a rich, straight, gourmand vanilla I enjoyed sniffing on the edge of my thumb, and would probably kill me in larger doses.

DSH Arome d´Egypt – DSH does spice and gourmand scents really well. This is sort of a spice market/incense scent.

DSH Jitterbug – this is in fact a wonderful old-fashioned spicy oriental fragrance that one could imagine wafting up from various vintage bottles.

Liz Zorn Sunset Rider – huh. To the extent we´re developing a trend, what I´m discovering sampling her stuff is I find the top notes jarring, and then the whole fragrance opens up and shifts in a direction I like better. Having done this several times now, I´m kind of enjoying the construct; it gets my attention. Sunset Rider starts off with what I think is a citrus/sandalwood blast, then dries down into a fairly indolic jasmine, and you know I like my jasmine dirty.

LZ Vanillaville. From her website: “A rustic, smoky vanilla, with the essence of pipe tobacco and leather. Notes include Almond, Tonka, Tarragon, Birch Tar and Coffee.” To me it smelled like a perfect sweet pipe tobacco rather than leather.

LZ Solstice – (formerly Peace on Earth?). Balsam, white pine, rose, jasmine, violet, cassie, clove, sandalwood, agarwood, rosewood, frankincense, myrrh, amber, woods, balsam of Peru, orris, patchouli, tuberose, moss, ambrette, vanilla. A floral incense. I got the extrait. It´s very soft and comforting, lightly spicy. I want to spray this on and see how I felt about it, I think I would love it. For some reason it´s not coming up at all on her website.

LZ Chado – Green Tea, Blue Cypress, fresh herbs. The website describes it as GRASSY-DRY-HERBAL, which is not my sort of thing. However, that´s a perfect description.

LZ Oolong – a peach tea and tooooo sweeet on me. The only one of the bunch I really didn´t care for.

LZ Blood Orange and Vetiver – hey, remember Wickle Chestnut & Vetiver? No? Sigh. That was such a great scent. Its simplity in concept was part of its charm. This is along the same lines – a sweet/tart juicy orange mixed with a fairly rooty vetiver.

LZ Cordovan Rose – the big rose opening up and walloped my nose, but before I could scream in horror the birch tar and glove leather painted a smile on my face. I still wouldn´t wear it, because it´s rose, but fans of leathery roses might love this. The rose fades over time, leaving me with a soft, sweet leather.

Liz Zorn is, I think, moving her goods to her new website, selling them under a different name, Soivohle, and I´m going to gripe that I hate the setup, in which all the fragrances are sold using abbreviations – Sunset Rider becomes SR-05-N. Hon, why? They already have (slightly groovy) names, which I kinda like. I view this as a step backward. Alphanumeric reference-style naming is dull and hard to remember. It didn´t work well for Parfums MDCI, it didn´t work well for biehl.parfumkunstwerke, and it ain´t gonna work well for you either.

bee image: pdphoto.org

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Gail S
18 years ago

Now how’s this for customer service? I just clicked over to read LZ’s blog and saw this:

http://parfumemoderne.blogspot.com/

She’s already addressed several of the issues brought up here. Now I like her even more!

P.S. Not affiliated in any way, just a fond customer

18 years ago

At least you got a link at the shows homepage..

🙂

Admin
18 years ago

I got punted from the show! They were long on callers and short on time to finish the five scents they were sniffing, so I didn’t get to play. Waaaahhh!!! :((

18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

sucks! Oh well. Which show was it?

18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

That was a disappointment! We were looking forward to raising the level of the conversation when they brought you on. Then suddenly it was all over. Maybe another time. Blog on, Posse. -TS

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  March

And the callers were either gushing or asking inane questions. Nothing even remotely interesting. Patty would have added some substance.

18 years ago
Reply to  kathleen

Oy, and that pompous wombat from Creed babbling on…

18 years ago
Reply to  tmp00

Okay. My tonsils hurt. “Pompous Wombat”?

I don’t think I can recover from that one!=))

xoxo

18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I was seriously let down…:- I was looking forward to validating someone who does have the perspective of collector and genuine perfume lover. Somehow the interviewers of such shows don’t give me the impression they’re genuinely interested in the matter….
Boo on them, that was a dumb thing to do!

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  March

But lucky enough the callers asked questions that they were able to answer straight from the book. Luca even got to use his bacon quip. Made me wonder if the questioners were plants.

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  kathleen

I meant callers were plants 🙂

March
18 years ago
Reply to  kathleen

And I am such a dim bulb I am visualizing the green, growing things and trying to make that add up. /:)

Hey, be sure to come back Monday when we talk about The Guide, if you can stand any more.

Carol
18 years ago

Bummer – I think I tuned in at maybe 10:30 Central and only heard LT and TS too…..

18 years ago

I definitely see what you all mean regarding the vast difference between the top and the base in Liz Zorn’s scents. At least from the 2 that I tried… Still have more to play with.

March – I envy your deskanking skin. For whatever reason – Cordovan Rose reminded me of a wood fired pizza. Not a rose to be seen on my skin. Just a leather cowboy carrying a pizza…

Also agree with you on the problems she may be inviting with her adoption of a code rather than a name. Though after what she went through with “peace,” can’t say I blame her….

The DSHs vary significantly on me. I really don’t pick up anything in her line that makes me sniff it and go “Yeah – that’s a DSH.”

I find I like her Essence Oils over her Parfums des Beaux Artes line. Probably a result of my deep-seated fondness for head shop oils. I have no taste l-)

kathleen
18 years ago

March, I haven’t had the opportunity to try Costume National 21 but I noticed that one of the notes in it is vetiver. Sometimes, I get the smell of anise from some fragrances that contain vetiver i.e.TDC Sel de Vetiver. If I remember correctly, you are not a fan of vetiver? Maybe you pick up the same anise scent from it as I do.

Robin
18 years ago

So agree on the new Soivohle site.

My favorite was your least favorite — Chado. Also still thinking over Yin Hao, did you try that one? SERIOUSLY indolic jasmine. Might be too much for me, but can’t decide.

18 years ago

You know that you are not supposed to use the word “peace” in any way referring to a fragrance, right? You could be getting a nasty letter…:d

18 years ago
Reply to  March

what woman?

March the Apologetic
18 years ago
Reply to  Musette

And I can’t type *that* here because she’ll sic her lawyers on me.

18 years ago

I think I get it now..:-?

chayaruchama
18 years ago

NO PATTY !
Jake and I both listened- and I didn’t hear her voice, I’d have known ….
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Francesca
18 years ago
Reply to  March

I think they must have run out of time, what with the really long announcements and that Creed guy going on and on and on. I was disappointed not to hear Patty, too. Still can’t remember which actor’s voice Luca’s reminded me of.

Hmmm, wearing 31 Rue Cambon today and I don’t get the 7-Up. I guess that’s a good thing.

Hi Louise, I enjoyed meeting you!

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Francesca

Lovely meeting you, too!
@};-

MarkDavid
18 years ago

Blah, I finally got tuned in with 10 minutes left in the program. I’ll download the podcast later, when its posted.

I did tune-in in time to hear Caron’s Fleur de Rocaille get less than favorable acclaim, however.

MarkDavid
18 years ago
Reply to  March

I have to agree with you. It is often the case that people lean towards the most blase of the selection. Although I think there are many better examples out there than Caron.

It is a statement to what the general populace likes, however. (we’re excluded) and if Caron released that with the intention of actually selling it – then Rocaille is a brilliant scent because its mission accomplished for Caron. Making money on mediocrity. Power to them. (if we look at it that way.)

But Im not sure I find any of the Carons to be Mediocre. I really don’t, in fact.

madelyn E
18 years ago

:Hi there,
i am now tuned in (while working ) to NPR via the internet to hear this great interview. Am anxious to hear Patti- as i somehow missed meeting her in ny during the Sniffapalooza .Am very excited. Bravo !

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  March

What the hell? I sat thru a lot of smugness to hear Patty. If she was on, I sneezed thru it.

18 years ago

I am eagerly awaiting on news on how the Patty inteview went! Hope you give us the gist later on, OK?

Congrats!!

Helg

18 years ago
Reply to  March

They booted her!:o That’s despicable!!! [-x
It could have been a really GOOD thing to have a genuine perfume collector give some commentary…
Here’s hoping that now they know the way they will maybe ask her again on a different show.

Debbie
18 years ago

Thanks for the image of bee to describe how we experience fragrance. It fits and is much more flattering than others that have occurred to me. I need the days of just one fragrance, too.

DSH Tamarind Paprika is great. Unusual. I probably won’t get a bottle, however, because her scents don’t have enough sillage or persistence for me. I have two bottles (Mahjoun and Scandal); love the scents, but having to spray repeatedly bothers me.

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Debbie

She has that “with fixative” option in the drop box-I wonder what that does to longevity?

Sondra
18 years ago
Reply to  March

ewwwww…

Sondra
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Poor little cat….

Sondra
18 years ago
Reply to  March

And I’m normally a dog person… don’t go there.

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  March

How’d you like some civet coulis on your cheesecake, darling :-& ?

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  March

You started it :”>

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

Darn emoticons-let’s try this…:@)

Jake
18 years ago

Is Patty going to mention the Caron controversy during this radio thing?

My own theoryis that LT and/or TS has a fantasy of taking over a famed perfume house, and Caron seems the most likely target, being relatively dinky and owned by some niche shampoo company, so they’re ragging on all the scents hoping that the shampoo magnate will beg them step in and fix things.

Veronica
18 years ago
Reply to  Jake

Oh, Nooooo ,I hope they leave my Caron alone. I like them just the way they are, thanks very much!

18 years ago
Reply to  March

They’re workin’ my Very Last Nerve and priming for a real Beat Down:-w It’s actually nice in a ‘regular pretty’ sort of way but I can see exactly why they wouldn’t like it.

Judith
18 years ago

I do like the Liz Zorn’s I tried, especially Solstice and Blood Orange/Vetiver. Need to try the other one Chaya mentions, and maybe the Cordovan Rose. I can’t WAIT to hear Patty!!!

chayaruchama
18 years ago

Naturally, we’re tunin’ in for Patty !
Go, PATTY !!!!!

chayaruchama
18 years ago

Hi,sweetface-

I deliberately brought Liz’s scents with me to Sniffa, for folks to try….
It’s time she felt some love.
Big hits with most who sniffed:
Blood Orange / Vetiver- a wowzer;
Domino Viole- I think, hands down, this stunned people, especially CV.
I love and wear Solstice, and want Underworld, and quite a few others.

Yeah-
I KNOW it’s not fun to see them by code.
But let’s look at the positives :

New packaging – sleek, elegant, distinctive.
New minimalist font- very satisfying.
These aren’t linear…they grow and dance and morph on your skin- NOT BORING !

OK- Liz is an iconoclast; this is what I adore about her.
True to herself and her ethos.
Admits that not everything is for everyone.

So, we’re not wild for the new nomenclature. Big deal.
Truly- how many times have we sniffed frags with brilliant names, which smell gross ?
‘Nuff said….

Dawn does many wonderful scents- you could go blind trying to work your way through the list [and poor, too !].

Unrecalcitrant hippie that I are, I’m thrilled to see these folks
get attention !

[I wish I’d had more time with you…Sniffa was really a circus, this time around]

Sending big kisses to that soulful, beautiful face of yours-
And your wild brood.

chayaruchama
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Yeah- I look like I’m snorting…
So silly.
I mean, if I’m this nuts with simply 2 cups of coffee-
What the hell would I need coke for ???
[I particularly enjoyed the cleavage thing, I’ll admit…]

Email was eaten, but I just sent you one…
I thought you rocked, personally.
Lil’ Gaelic beauty, you.
And CHIC, goddammit.

18 years ago
Reply to  March

I know what you mean about those references influencing a fragrance but it will pass, I think.

Luckily, scent has a way of reinserting itself into the psyche. In about 6 months The Guide will be an interesting book on our bookshelves and little more(my opinion). 7-up and anise and all that will fade into the background. He trashed the living hell out of Miss Rocaille, which I love because it smells to me like vintage Vent Vert (maybe). Luckily he didn’t name any notes, save the ‘shrill peony’ (I think – maybe that was another frag) else I would be in the same boat as all of you!

18 years ago
Reply to  Musette

Huh? Why is this down here instead of up there?:o

Oh, well. Hey, Chaya….! Come to the Chicago Thingy! PLEASE? I am so wanting to meet you and you will have a blast! When March gets that clone of herself finished she will start putting the information out there (I swear I don’t know how you and Patty have time to do all this) – it’s perfume, chocolate, cocktails…all in the beyootiful Windy City, for those who couldn’t make it to NY.

xoMusette

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Musette

Hi Musette! When are y’all thinking of the Chicago Thing?

18 years ago
Reply to  March

<:-p

18 years ago
Reply to  Musette

that is NOT the emoticon I was going for (I was going for Mr Party).

this is like Perfuminator: Rise of the Emoticons!

Louise
18 years ago

Oooh, gotta sneak outa class to hear Patty!

I am pretty certain I am a slightly reformed Perfume Crow-ya know-Ooooh, pretty, I want it….

I haven’t got the guide yet, somehow I just don’t want to read the reviews quite yet. Maybe I am afraid I’ll smell something new in a favorite that I won’t like. Or will crave Secretions M.

I love DSH Tamarind/Paprika, am considering a bottle (for next winter, it doesn’t fit right now), and am verrrry intrigued by LZ’s Solstice, Chado, and Cordovan Rose. I don’t know her line yet at all 😮

rosarita
18 years ago

I just had to comment on the perfume vagabond idea, which I totally get. I’ve been so edgy lately; can’t decide what to wear, nothing smelling right, then all of a sudden – bam! I’m in full on sampling, testing, trying, oohing & ahhing mode again. This is where I like to be. 🙂

Maria
18 years ago

Thanks, March. Go, Patty! Wow, we’ll get to hear Her voice?

The only one of these I’ve tried is DSH Tamarind Paprika and I must say I don’t get potpourri at all, just an easy-to-live with mellow fragrance with some pleasant fruitiness.

18 years ago

Vagabond. Seeker. Wanderer. Exactly. I just tossed a gallon Zip-lock with testers I’m done with. Toy with them. Don’t call them back. Then one comes along and ZAP! Full bottle worthy, and truly in love. Although I have plenty of full bottles, I don’t fall in fragrance love easily. And I like it that way.
Sigh, I’m waiting for The Book passion to pass. I suffer from “wow I never thought of it that way and now it’s the only way I can think of it” too, so I’m not reading the book.
And while I have several of Liz Zorn’s, I can’t get over the shift in opening to dry down. Normally, I love a shift, insist on it, but I can’t manage to like both ends of the shift in her fragrances. And the alpha-numeric thing is confusing. Isn’t that why perfumes have names? If Arabie were called AR-945-L, I’d never remember that I love it.

Gail S
18 years ago
Reply to  March

So I’m thinking of The Shift (LOL!) like this. You’re walking up to a door at night to go to a party. You open the door and there’s this immediate rush of bright lights and loud music, somewhat off-putting in it’s boisterousness (is that a word?), but still welcoming. Then you go in and see all your friends, have a nice drink, a little snack, sit back and get comfortable. And enjoy the ride!

sylvia
18 years ago

wow, that’s a lot of liz zorns and dsh’s to take in. let me know if you’re doing a giveaway! just kidding… sort of… btw, im excited for the guide free-for-all. reading now. its like every perfumista in the US is in the same book club this month, haha.

Gail S
18 years ago

Another vagabond here :d (obviously!) I kind of like that description.

So, you get the similar “vibe” from the Liz Zorn’s too, huh? I really think I might actually be able to identify her fragrances without seeing a label. I had to e-mail her to get the Solstice extrait and now I don’t remember exactly what she said in return. According to her blog, she has set something up to alert her when she shows up somewhere on the internets, so maybe she’ll be along to clear things up. In case she does, I’ll add my voice to yours in saying that I don’t really care for the new way she has them listed. I just can’t quite wrap my brain around initials and letters when it comes to perfume! They just don’t seem to associate themselves properly with the acent and don’t give another level of satisfaction to the smelling :((

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  March

When I went to the descriptors on the website and clicked for “more information”, they list the names…so they’re still there, just kind of hidden.

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Gotcha-I’m with you on preferring “Sunset Rider”<):)

Gail S
18 years ago
Reply to  March

Huh. 😮 Never even occurred to me to try to make something out of the new name. I guess I’m just kind of complacent these days.

Erin T
18 years ago

Hey, thanks for the link. *sigh* March, I know where you are. I put on 31 Rue Cambon (which still rocks) and all I could smell was 7-UP. See, now I’ve briefly ruined it for you, too. Darn you, Tania.

Anthony
18 years ago

I’ve been a perfume fan since I was in my early teens, but a fragrance LUNATIC for only about a year. And now you’ve once again given a name to something I ponder all the time: I, too, am a fragrance vagabond. I feel like setting up a group on Facebook (just kidding) but seriously, My last $1-or-so spent on fragrance has been in Perfumed Court decants 🙂 And for now, that’s the way I like it… The ability to go between Incense Extreme to Avignon to Ambre Sultan to Virgin Island Water, on a whim, is perfect for my fragrance personality. I’m just one of those people. For instance on one hand I have a spritz of L’eau d’Hiver and on the other The Dreamer and I’m in heaven. No need for big expensive bottles to keep me happy. 🙂 By the way I finally figured out what was bothering me about L’eau d’Hiver: It reminds me of Balmex diaper rash cream, that thick white vanilla milky smelling stuff… Anyway… Have a great day vagabonds! 🙂

Anthony
18 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

I meant $100-or-so 🙂

sylvia
18 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

to me, l’eau d’hiver smells like icyhot (wintergreen pain reliever cream) plus hay. plus a touch of insect repellent. but i love it!! it smells like camping to me.

Anthony
18 years ago
Reply to  March

I KNEW I shouldn’t have said anything. The thing is, it doesn’t remind me of it in that it SMELLS LIKE it but it’s that thick white sensation it gives… NO OFFENSE to Sylvia 😀 but it doesn’t remind me of Icy Hot… Balmex is a creamy vanilla “ish” smell to me without any mint or medicinal edge. I was thinking more of the sensation. And this sensation is just that L’Eau d’Hiver has a thickness I couldn’t wrap my head around. That it smells so light but it smells creamy, but like THICK creamy (thus, the Balmex association)… By the way, I am loving it. LOVING it… I just woke up and it’s still on my hand as plain as day. Ok enough about Balmex, just don’t let it be ruined because I actually like BOTH smells :(:)>- :d

Anthony
18 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

Oh my gosh, I am SO sorry this is going on forever 😀 But… congratulations to Patty and The Posse. I couldn’t be more excited the radio/podcast interview! I can’t WAIT to hear it!!! 🙂

sylvia
18 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

none taken! i get no creaminess or vanilla from it on me, however. one time i even tried layering icyhot on my wrist then putting demeter fresh hay over it and after a few minutes it had a similar thing going (no magic of course, but it was interesting. and my wrist was tingly)

18 years ago
Reply to  sylvia

Sylvia,

Come sit by me! I recently layered Cynthia Rowley’s ‘Flower’ with nail polish remover. No magic, as you said, but way better than ‘Flower’ alone.

18 years ago

You can listen live at http://www.wbur.org, or download the podcast from !

Maria
18 years ago
Reply to  Pien

Thank you for the links, Pien!