Replowing Serge Lutens 5 au Gingembre

Lee gave a great review on this last week, and I did a short blurb as well, but I am so much in love with this stuff, I have to write a little more about it – mostly because I’ve put it on every day since I got it.

This goes on like thick honeyed smoke, a more palatable Miel de Bois with some dark, rich Tea for Two and CdG Tea thrown in.  It can change back and forth from smoke to tea to honey being more prominent, with ginger overarching the whole composition, bubbling, but never getting oppressive, which is what I would expect from something with these strong notes.  This is one of the few scents I’ve worn out that I’ve gotten a compliment on – I do try to be careful about my sillage in public, though my private sillage is just embarrassingly ridiculous much of the time.

I stuck my sprayed hand under my youngest son Harry’s nose and asked him what he thought, and he kept my hand and just drowned his nose in it.  Since he’s only done that with a couple of scents, that is high praise indeed.

If you despise tea scents or smokey scents or all of the ones referenced above, The Five may not work for you, but I am guessing this will wind up being one of the better sellers for their export line. It’s brilliantly done.  And freaking hot.

A question, if you had to pick just two of the Serge exports and two of the Serge non-exports that you could have a constant supply of for your whole life, which would you pick?

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Sara
18 years ago

Well, I didn’t separate them into export/non-export, but: Douce Amere and Un Lys. I also enjoy Chene, and sometimes Gris Clair. I like Mandarin Mandarine, but it doesn’t work on my skin.

I’m looking forward to sniffing Gingembre!

Un Chant d 'Amour
18 years ago

I haven ‘t tested it yet, but I had fun reading reviews online, how interesting cultural perceptions on fragrances are; for the french FOCAG is honey honey honey and it ‘s all about tea tea and more smoky tea for anglo-americans but in both cases reviews are rather good.

18 years ago

Tea with ginger, I’ve got to try this one… Though the honey note scares me – Miel de Bois is pure men’s room awfulness.
My non-export favs are MKK (of course!) and, I think, Ambre Sultan. My export… ummm… Fumerie Turque and… does Chene count as export?

evilpeony
18 years ago

Ahh… I sense another SL lemming in the horizon. How evil this particular critter must be to come at a time when I’m leaving my cubicle and going on welfare? :-w

So, if somebody kind would volunteer to finance by SL addiction indefinitely, I would go for the following non-exports: Mandarin Mandarine and Chergui. Exports: Gris Clair and A la Nuit for that slayer jasmine that just knocks the socks off my BF. (literally, he’s swore to shoot that jasmine on site.)

Anyway, please pass the hot tea down this way….

18 years ago

Of the dozen or so I’ve tried, I suppose my four would be Fumerie Turque, Bois de Violette, Arabie, and either Encens et Lavande ore Mandarin Mandarine. Chene very nearly makes it into the top four club, too. Oddly enough, the very first SL I tried, Chergui, left me cold and made me wonder what all the buzz was about. There are still about eight SLs on my To Try list – mostly winter frags, so I won’t be getting to them until the fall.

18 years ago
Reply to  Vasily

Oh yeah, 5 au Gingembre is at the top of my list of To Trys!!

rosarita
18 years ago

I’m still sampling my way through Serge but the ones I’ve tried and liked enough to buy decants of are Encens et Lavande & Clair de Musc. E&L is amazing; one deep sniff and I can put an entire rotten day behind me. I’ve read so many reviews of CdM, saying it’s boring, other muscs are way better etc., but imho it smells wonderful, so there. :d

parisa
18 years ago

To date, I’ve had NO luck with SL. Tried the entire export range and a couple exclusives yet, same thing occurs, the notes are too heavy for my skin and I’m forced to wash/scrub it off. That being said, this post has been pulling me like nothing else. I’m going to take the plunge and order my bottle today from The Perfume Shoppe. I need to have it, I really, really do:) I ‘feel’ that this will be the ONE!!

parisa
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Patty,
I’m having high hopes for this one. Since I adore Ambre Narguile, I figured that this might work as well. I also love cinnamon accords and I noticed a few people detected this note in the blend. Tea is easy for me to work with so the only thing will be the honey note and how sweet it comes off. If it’s as dry and warm as I assume it to be, I’ve got a winner!! I already took the plunge and ordered it so wish me luck.

Dusan
18 years ago

Ok, I’m going to cheat here – my lifetime SG supplies would include SdM, FT, EeL, La Myrrhe, MM, BdV, FdO, Chene and a few others. What, you don’t expect me to make such a major decision at such short notice, do you? Tsk.Tsk.
You’ve got me dying to try that 5 o’clock shadow… um, ginger, you evil, wonderful woman! 😡

Flor
18 years ago

MKK
Iris Silver Mist

FT (I’m going to count is as a non export so that I can include it, because I have to have it)
torn between Gris Clair and Douce Amere, truth is, I haven’t had a really good chance to sample all of them, yet, so my options are limited.

violetnoir
18 years ago

I feel like a retard, but after all these years, there’s only one SL that has really got me going, and that is Daim Blond.

That’s it P…I can’t think of any others that I absolutely have to have, although I do receive compliments when I wear Ambre Sultan.

Maybe this new one will do it for me???

Hugs!

Tara
18 years ago

Just received my bottle of Gingembre from the Perfume Shoppe this Saturday and it’s LOVE! I was scared when I heard it was like Tea for Two and Arabie, neither of which I can stand, but it’s not – it’s a lovely ginger tea scent on me, which starts out strong but dries down quickly into a fabulous warm thing.

My two non-exports are Tubereuse Criminelle and Iris Silver Mist. Export are Bois Vanille and Fleurs d’Oranger.

Maria
18 years ago

Is Chene a non-export or an export? Is its exportness only temporary? Will it revert to non-export? Whichever list it goes on, it’s the top.

Non-exports after Chene: Iris Silver Mist and Rose de Nuit.

Exports: A la Nuit and…here it comes, Patty…Arabie. :d

Denise
18 years ago

Um, is there a chart or something out there of the exports vs. non-exports? For the ‘n00bs’ (isn’t that what we’re called…) who can’t remember which is which.

All I have from Serge are decants; my favorites are: Encens et Lavande and Fumerie Turque, although it sounds like Five O’Clock will be joining the list once my sample arrives!

Disteza
18 years ago

What a horrible question, making me choose only 2 non-exports! I’d have to say Borneo and La Myrrhe, but if I could I’d put the entire Bois line there. While I admire the non-export line, they don’t wear particularly well on me, Miel de Bois being the exception. I wish I could wear Arabie; it smells so lush on my husband, on me it’s currants and taco mix. Can’t wait to try the new one–it’s sounds like something I might be able to wear.
BTW, will definitely start experimenting with the AG EdF as a base layer, even though by itself on me it’s all Jiffy Lube and ashtrays.

Judith
18 years ago

Hmmmm. . . hard question. I don’t know whether to follow Billy’s example and pick some LEs for my exports, or to play it, um, straight.

If I could choose LEs I would do FT and Chergui. If I can only pick standard exports, it would be Gris Clair and Daim Blond.

Now, assuming I have chosen standard exports, I would choose Fumerie Turque and Rose de Nuit for my nonexports. But if I have already chosen FT (clearly a must-have for me), I would choose either MKK or Encens et Lavande (well, if I have Gris Clair, I guess I would go for the MKK). I think that covers all possibilites (and lets me mention more perfumes than would otherwise be permitted):)

Of course, all this might change when I sniff that Gingembre!

Debbie
18 years ago

I have a suggestion for the next Perfume Posse club scent experience: tea. You could take the sampler on TPC, add 5:00 Ginger. Hopefully, you could keep them all, but if you’ve found that it would make for something too expensive to have alot of participants, then take one or a few out of the sampler. We’re in between seasons, and tea would be a great bridge between winter and spring. Think about it. Or is the Perfume Posse Club Scent a thing of the past? :(( Or has nearly everyone here experienced all of these scents already? :-s

SMY
18 years ago
Reply to  Debbie

I like this idea and hope the Perfume Posse Scent Club is still around! I’m eagerly awaiting the next picks.

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  SMY

Me too! I’m new and haven’t had a chance to play yet. Also, the only Serge that I’ve tried is the Encense Lavande, jury is still out. Heavy duty lavender.

Kelly
18 years ago
Reply to  Debbie

ooooo! love this idea… have to include CB’s Tea/Rose… still makes me gasp every time at its perfection. Yup… crazy for the tea…

barbara
18 years ago

non-export-bois de violette(people swer they smell incense-and it is me) and mandarin mandarin
export-vetiver,chene,un bois vanille(really captures sweet cinnoman in creamy horchata)daim blond-which disturbs me, and keeps me coming back

sybil
18 years ago

uhhmmm, let’s see. My four are Encens et Lavande, Chergui, Vetiver Oriental, and Un Lys. And Fumerie Turque if my Un Lys-loving DD1 isn’t standing over my shoulder…

18 years ago

Non-Export:
MKK
Mandarine Mandarin

Export:
Chene
Borneo 1834

I was told by the lady at Barneys that Chene is staying in the export, and I read that Borneo was going to be the next one to join the list so I am counting them. I am now sticking my fingers in my wars and loudly saying “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” in case anyone tells me I can’t count them.. :-@

18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I think it was on Basenotes, but I can’t search for the thread.

Debbie
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I know I read it too. Can’t remember where. I don’t share your enthuasiam. One of the nastiest fragrances EVER on me.

MarkDavid
18 years ago

Non-Exports:
Tubereuse Criminelle
Iris Silver Mist

Exports:
Ambre Sultan
Chene (this is technically cheating since I have a bell jar)

Betsy
18 years ago

Longtime lurker (and big-time fan) here, emergring sheepishly to declare my loooove for Gigembre– which took me by surprize since I’ve never been one much for tea. But doesn’t an unexpected swoon like that just make you fall even harder?

As for the SL game, export would be Chergui (LEs count, right?!) and now the lovely 5 O’clock, and non-exports would be Borneo 1834 and bois de violette, no question.

Kelly
18 years ago

Oh gosh I’m waffle-y on this one… I haven’t tried it and don’t know if I want to. Tea and Ginger = LOVE. Smoke = wretch. I know, I know, take away my Perfume Lover’s Card. I’m afraid I’ll try it and hate it and if I don’t try it, I can imagine something really wonderful. How twisted is that?

Whaddaya think, Patty?

Kelly
18 years ago
Reply to  Kelly

Oh brother… please also make that silent W an invisible W…

coffee = good thing :”>

Debbie
18 years ago

I tried several SL’s a long time ago and wasn’t impressed at all, until I tried Chergui. That is THE ONE for me. How I love it.

I want to retry the SL’s at some point, and I definitely want to try 5:00 Ginger. I am kind of concerned, however. I read somewhere that it’s more like Rousse on the skin that something more pronounced. I thought Rousse was just soft, round cinnamon and rather boring.

Debbie
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

hmmm… have to try it

Admin
18 years ago

Oh my goodness, that sounds amazing!

I’m a dummy and don’t even know which are export … I haven’t had much trouble getting my hands on samps :d

So my faves are EetL, Fleurs d’Oranger, The Big Pencil and the (vastly underrated) Clair de Musc. Chergui I loved until it bit me.

donanicola
18 years ago

This shouldn’t be too difficult an exercise since I like/admire many SLs but love relatively few. On the exports I’d choose Daim Blond and Chene (I know it was an LE so a bit of a cheat but I bought it as export so am claiming it as such)and the non exports, Rose de Nuit and either Bois de Violette or Bois et Musc or (maybe, because my sample is on the way but I think I’m going to like it)Bois et Fruits. However this gingery one may throw a spanner into the works.

Theresa
18 years ago

Hmm…this sounds amazing! Any idea if I can get my hands on some in the DC area?

kathleen
18 years ago
Reply to  Theresa

I’ve checked at my usual stomping grounds, Saks, Neimans even Barney’s COop. None carry it. I even took a chance with a couple of specialty shops in Leesburg, no luck yet. Do you have any other ideas?

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  kathleen

Art with Flowers at Tyson’s will likely carry it-just call Bill and ask when they’ll have it in-they have most or all of the exports.

Disteza
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

Speaking of Art With Flowers, Vetiver Oriental has reappeared there–if you like your vetiver on the rooty spicy side, now’s the time to try it.

BBliss
18 years ago

Serge doesn’t play nice with me, have yet to find an Export I could live without, much less wear in public – my skin just magnifies them…and they put me in a bad mood. :-w

Maybe BdeViolette for non-export…maybe the Encens et Lavande, but again, they usually make me sullen and cross. Will I be banished from the Posse posts for admitting I’m not an undying fan?:o

Maybe this Gingembre will be the break-through – it just sounds heavenly. But that’s my problem with SLs – they always sound/smell so much better in theory for me…

BBliss
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Thanks for letting me stay :d

He’s just complicated and dark – and not in a comforting way to me…but, I’ll tell you what I do *love* is that wax sample booklet from the Salons – anyway, whenever I get a whiff of that whole thing in a drawer I swoon – but not *one* scent alone will do that for me on my skin…

18 years ago

I’d pick Daim Blond and Tubereuse Criminelle, and that’s it, I think

Elle
18 years ago

I kept my expectations for this one low. Very low. Didn’t even race to try it when I got it in the mail. When I finally did I wasn’t bowled over and figured I’d been right to hold back on the enthusiasm. Then about a half hour later casually resniffed my wrist to see how it was progressing. Complete change of attitude. *Love*. Definitely along the lines of Rousse on my skin. I agree w/ you – think it will be one of the better sellers of the export line. But…choose just two faves from export and non?!!! No. Brain starts to scramble, comes close to exploding. Can’t. Do. At. All. I love far too many too deeply. However, I could do two least favorites from each group. The honors for export would go to Louve and Clair de Musc. Hmmm…am finding I can’t really choose for non-exports. I’ll just add two more to the exports – Sa Majeste (and this coming from a rose lover) and Gris Clair.

chayaruchama
18 years ago

LE- would be Santal Mysore and Bois de Violette; exports are Ambre Sultan and Un Lys.

Awaiting my samp, to see what it does….

Erin / Tigs
18 years ago

Kind of hard to tell nowadays what is an non-export and what is not. What is Fumerie Turque, for example, or Un Lys? If we count the more reliably available LEs, my exports are pretty easy: Ambre Sultan and Douce Amere. (Though this new one sounds brilliant.) That also leaves me in a better position with the non-exports, which are harder, because I can honestly say Chene and MKK. If we count Chene as an LE, then I have to choose between something I love and admire, but don’t wear very often (TC and to a slightly lesser extent Bois de Violette or ISM) and the Serge that I wear the most, but am vaguely uncertain about, Mandarine Mandarin.

18 years ago

Isn’t it just brilliant? I love the mastery of the composition, echoing the fresh/zesty and spicy facets of ginger all in one smooth, demure, wonderful package.
To me, Five o’clock wasn’t only FBW, it was an instant purchase, too, and that’s sayin’ somethin’ 😉

Also, choosing only two of Serge’s lovely offerings is too difficult, and cruel to boot, so… 😉

(oh, and hi! (Very-)long-time lurker here, finally taking the comment plunge!))

Sylvia Scarlett
18 years ago

Non exports: Bois de Violette and Chêne
Exports: Fleurs de Citronnier and Miel de Bois (though I’m hearing such wonderful raves about 5 au Gingembre, I think I’m very close to buying it unsniffed…)

Kim
18 years ago

non-exports – the only one I must have is Rose de Nuit, although I also love Borneo 1834 and Chergui

exports – 2, 2 you say, ONLY 2? I don’t think so!
Douce Amere (not sure why more people don’t rave about this one) and Un Lys and Une Bois Vanille – all three are marvelous alone or layered with one of the others. And if 5 au Gingembre is that marvelous, I’ll take it as well.

And with those choices, woe to anyone downwind from me!!

Kim
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

what really amazes me about the line is that the ones that I wear gradually grow on me and join the ones I immediately love – and seem to be different on me in different weather, moods, etc. Amazing artistry, no?

Sariah
18 years ago

My top 3 life time supply required SLs: Chergui, Douce Amere,
and Santal de Mysore. Reading your post, this new one could very possibly be number 4. This is a kind of perfumista torture – reading this and waiting for my decant to arrive!

18 years ago

Tea, smoke & sweet spice … wow, I need to try this, it sounds like Tea For Two (which is love or eh for me, depending on the weather & phase of the moon) only with more guts & glory. I’ve not read one bad review & glad to see Serge getting so much love after Sarrasins & Louve.

You say choose? Easy. Datura Noir & Un Bois Vanille on the exports. Cuir Mauresque (& I don’t care that my bf suddenly decided it’s powdery, he’s WRONG) & hmm … perhaps this newcomer Gingembre? Or if we don’t get along & if my spring test drive of Tubereuse Criminelle falls flat I’ll go with the ltd ed, Fumerie Turque. I’ll be receiving my bottles by tomorrow’s post, yes? 😉

Billy D
18 years ago

Hmm, exports: maybe Daim Blonde and…ok, I have to pick two “limited editions,” Fumerie Turque or Chene.
Non-Exports: Iris Silver Mist, no question, and…Chene again? 🙂

Louise
18 years ago

uhhhh…OK-exports-Arabie and Ambre Sultan (and a bonus-DT). Non-exports-FT and Bois Oriental.

Ah, I am tempted to order the Ginger unsniffed…restraint called for here 8-|

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Louise

oops-DN, not DT-not at all the same!

Louise
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Luckily, I found a sample to try later today! Way excited…:d/

Debbie
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I wouldn’t worry too much about that. If they know about MUA, they could make a killing swapping decants of this. I assume it comes in the pour top….that would make it easier to decant too.

Lee
18 years ago

Non-exports are easier for me than exports. Encens et Lavande and Santal de Mysore (sorry ISM). Exports – Arabie (sorry Patty) and erm, er, well, oh, eeh, aah, umm, Santal Blanc? Maybe I’d actually choose 5pm, just because I can.

I’m waiting for my bottle to arrive…:-w

18 years ago

I’m off to sample 5 O’Clock this afternoon at the Palais-Royal… Non-export favorites? I’d be hard-pressed to name just two. Tubéreuse Criminelle springs to mind, as well as the newly-rediscovered (for me) La Myrrhe. I had a long falling-out with aldehydes but I’m very much into them now: La Myrrhe feels to me (but I think Victoria F. said it first) like a late 20th century response to Chanel N°5. But Muscs Koublaï Khan and Santal de Mysore are also on the lifetime supply list.
As for the exports, I haven’t explored them as much, but I’d say Un Lys and Fleurs d’Oranger. Lovely, dirt-tinged florals.

18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I did a try on my skin. Unfortunately my sample spilled in my makeup bag, so I won’t be able to re-test quietly at home. My first impression, such as it is, is that this feels more like an atmosphere that impregnates the skin and clothing than a perfume-y perfume. I really quite like it, more than I expected, actually. There’s a pepper-pimiento accord that seeps through the ginger, with a camphory veil throughout. I could swear I smelled a floral something at one point but that could’ve been another Lutens being applied in the shop. Or it may be a facet of the honey-beeswax accord which I’m sure is there. My friend Karin though there might have been a tobacco note.
It’s very atmospheric and seductive. Needs another try. Would be stunning on a man — my BF, the Chypre Rouge/Borneo thief, wants it after smelling the tainted makeup bag!
The S.A., a lovely Spanish young man named Marco, joked that trying to get notes out of Mr. Lutens was pretty much mission impossible, even for his staff.

18 years ago

Serge and I have a love/hate relationship. I keep wanting to love him without reservation and he keeps wanting to drive his black Rolls Royce over me while cracking a leather whip embellished with roses. We all love in different ways.

I love Arabie in the same way you love Gingembre (which I haven’t smelled yet), for all it’s sweet dates and sticky honey. I wear it at inappropriate times and don’t care.

With the same unreason, I love its polar opposite, Gris Clair, for the wild and windswept way it does and doesn’t smell of lavender. Oh, and it’s probably for men and I don’t care about that, either.

Don’t know much about the ones I can’t get.I’ve always been inrigured by Borneo 1834 and Mardarine, Mandarin. They might even smell great together, but of all the scents i don’t layer, it’s Serge’s. Every time I’m tempted, I hear him revving up his Rolls and checking the tread to see if he’d be pleased with the impression he’d leave, so I haven’t. yet.

Musette
18 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Patty –

Dang! My post got lost….

My Newbie votes (seriously noob – just sampled Serge last week) are Gris Clair, which I’m trying out to great success…with Daim Blond a close second.

The Ambre Ambre (not sure…is that the name of it?) oiled up on me. Ick.

I just read above that people tend to try way harder with these scents (and that the line is trying) – I agree. Except for GClair I got the sense I would have to struggle with this line.

Then again, I just fell in love with tea and smoke via T42 (once the flea-spray note dies down) and 5 au Gingembre sounds like a softer, warmer riff on those notes….we’ll see! It’s on my list for the next Spritza.