Vintage Model Upkeep

Keep this vintage body running is expensive – it is a needy, cranky model that sputters, chokes and whines without the proper fuel and cleaning.

After that deluge of shopping indiscretions that came out last week, it gave me pause about my spending habits, which on big purchases are really pretty restrained.

What’s become the large budget item for me is just routine vintage body upkeep, which I’d never bothered to add up and get a total for before.  I  could fill my closets with Birkins in the course of the year if I’d just let Mother Nature have her bitchy way with me.

Do you remember reading some of those divorce settlement requests of the stars where women requested a few thousand a month for personal upkeep alone?  Yeah, I laughed too.  This is y’all’s chance to laugh at me. Those who are in a similar boat can commiserate.  Remember, this is quarterly, not  monthly.

  • Pedicure & manicure x 6 – $300
  • Hair coloring (this varies on whether I’m cheating on my usual expensive stylist with an even more expensive one) – $250
  • Haircut between coloring – $50
  • Yoga monthly membership x3 – $360
  • Tanning monthly membership x3 (hey, don’t judge) – $240
  • Laser on face to keep peaches ‘n cream complexion or just avoid looking as haggy as I could – $500
  • Filler 1-2x per year, so in half – $300
  • Cosmetics that are essential – does not include new shades of lipsticks, eyeshadow, mascara, nail polish, just refills on mascara, foundation, etc – $300.
  • If I Included new shades of everything – $600+ depending on whether I liked the new collections
  • Pilates – 4-6 sessions a month at $20 per – $260
  • Acupuncture to keep stuff working  2x a month – $440
  • Rolfing 1x a month just to keep shit in line  – $300
  • Waxing 1x a month – $390
  • Massage to work out kinks from working out – $200
  • increase in monthly food bill to have organic food so I don’t introduce more toxins into system that lived through, but barely remembers, the ’70s and ’80s – $400
  • Lotions – this is Colorado, the parched skin capital of the world, so I can go through several of these a month for lips, hands, body, etc – $100
  • Perfume – no, let’s don’t, I can’t even face that.  But just refills of fragrances that I wear personally and replace is 100-200 a month as an average. So I have a few’ish bottles that I wear personally and I have to average over 20 years.

What did I miss? So far, I’m at 5k plus every three months.  I’m stunned, shocked and quite a bit chagrined.  So is this just me?  Or is it normal for women over 40 or 50?  I’m not willing to give up any of it.  The good news is, with all of this upkeep, I have zero medical problems, so spend almost nothing on medicine or doctors.

Perversely, I feel a lot better about buying those bags now.  Paying to get rid of bags and paying to get them.  A puzzle.  Do we want to go back to talking about sperm now?

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Cole
16 years ago

Well its really good to buy stuff especially if you work hard for it. It is also not bad if you want to get things just because you want to feel good about yourself.

16 years ago

following the blog, great stuff!

Claire Ryder
16 years ago

I think M Patty has over estimated. I think the most important thing to consider is much of that is health related. And much of that is not every month. You have worked hard since you were about 11. AND you have done it YOURSELF. You deserve everything you spend and get.

eldora
16 years ago

Awww, Patty, come sit next to me. (patting the mani chair next to mine) I think most people don’t realize what this altitude, on a daily basis, can do to your skin and hair. People here in CO, play hard. Pampering is necessary in order to look half decent. My favorite treat is a day at Tall Grass after spending a couple of days cross-country skiing and/or snow shoeing. Plus, with my small children, I have to contend with the Evergreen Stepford moms that easily spend twice what you do on mainteance.

Stephen
16 years ago

How effective is rolfing? I was thinking of giving it a go but am a little unsure of how severe it is! I have heard that the ‘rolfer’ breaks aprt your skeleto-muscular system, and that it can bring up trauma memory, if you have one , of course. By the way I have recently got into Arabic oil perfumes and have been trying to contact Abdul Samad Al Qurashi in London. Guess what? No reply. Contacted the website,twice, guess what? No reply!! Does anyone know if they have closed their London branch? Thanks for any info,

Stephen

maidenbliss
16 years ago
Reply to  Stephen

I would like to know more about the effectiveness of rolfing, too. I googled yesterday, but I feel
it’s always better to hear about something first hand.

LeBeau
16 years ago

Ha! This is great. I just read this to my husband and explained to him how I’m a ‘bargain’!!

Actually, I love clothes and shoes and shoes (did I mention shoes)…not make up so much. I have great complexion for 44, so I just don’t need it-plus we are a ski resort and few of my friends wear make up unless going out at night. Now, perfume, I’m there, but most of my expenses are athletic equipment. I can’t imagine going into winter without at least one new pair of downhill skis (need 3 pair to chose from), skate skis no more that 2 years old…new snowboard every other year, a new mountain bike every few summers, same with a road bike. And that doesn’t include the outfits to go with it all…

To each his own, carpe diem, it could all end so easily, enjoy it while you can!

nozknoz
16 years ago

Patty, my beauty routine has always been selective and not that expensive. For decades I neglected myself in favor of work, and I decided a couple years ago that I would no longer let work keep me from doing what I needed to do in order to be healthy. Frankly, the time that goes into the gym (serious weights), preparing real (mostly organic) food, private lessons to get into Pilates, lots of walking, etc., is more impressive than the money, and it IS worth it.

My true indulgence these days is vintage perfume. I’ve always loved scent, but discovering The Guide and blogs had enabled me to love both wisely and well <:-p Thank you, Patty, and all other bloggers for enabling this quest for olfactory beauty. And skank. Beautiful skank!

ScentRed
16 years ago

Hi Patty – I say: “You go girl”. Ya, it’s a lot of money. But it’s your money and if it helps you feel good, look good and be healthy – then it sounds like money well spent. I’m still in the midst of the haphazard personal care days that seem to go with being a working mom of two little ones. I feel I’ve aged considerably in the past 6 years since becoming a Mom. This is primarily because I don’t do the things that used to keep me looking good – good sleep, swimming, yoga, facials, acupuncture and general good personal care. I barely find time to go to the doctor, or the bathroom ;-). I’ve resolved to take better care of myself. I wouldn’t change a minute of the past 6 years, but I do look forward to finding a bit more time (and $) to do many of the things on your list. OK, probably not the tanning, although I’m not judging. Every spring I look at my pasty, veiny legs and consider tanning, at least for a few days 🙂

Kate
16 years ago

My vote is for posts about sperm and fragrance.

Ruanne
16 years ago

I’ve been reading the site for about a month, and I’m surprised at myself that a non-perfume related topic is the first one I can’t resist chiming in on, but here it is. Patty, I am noticing a preponderance of responses from women who spend less, and I do admire all the creative ways of staying gorgeous for free or very little, but in case it makes you feel better, here’s one 46 year old who may spend more- and in my case, it’s just to stay what I consider “normal.”

Near D.C. here, the stylist has me for $200 every month, massage is a non-negotiable monthly expense, and the only skin products that ever earn me compliments on my skin are Kiehl’s. You do the math (seriously- I was an English & Philosophy major. I actually can’t do the math.)

P.S. Give spray tans another chance.

Winifreida
16 years ago

What an extraordinary cross-section of people, united by a love of perfume! Who’d have thought?

nbh
16 years ago

Hi Patty,

If you want to maintain your wonderful health, please stop the tanning. Melanoma is a bad, bad way to die. Spend the money you save on more perfume!

maggiecat
16 years ago

Patty – like you, I suddenly and quite without my conscious awareness became high maintenance. I found out that my ahir looks much better when I let someone else color it every two months – and she might as well cut it while I’m there…Spinal fusion surgery has pretty much dictated that someone else has to take care of my toes as well – besides which it’s a lovely treat. I belong to a Massage clinic that offers a monthly low fee…All of which make sense, until we get to the skin care, make-up and perfume, at which point all I can say is “high maintenance – and worth it!”

Disteza
16 years ago

I’m not in your target demographic, but I also spend an awful lot of money on things. One of my jobs is coaching fencing, so there’s a lot of outlay for travel to tournaments, equipment, and taking classes and workshops. Of course, if you spend a lot of time sweating your stuff off under a mask and gloves who needs cosmetics or manicures? I spend very little on those sorts of things, but those savings end up going to my other obsession, flamenco, which has its own set of associated costs. And then there’s all of the background stuff I have to do to keep up with the fencing and flamenco; weight lifting and cardio classes, exercise equipment for the house, running shoes and the like. Throw in the occasional piece of couture, the costumery (of which there is much), perfume, wine, tea and chocolate habits and I end up spending a pretty chunk of change.
My only real cosmetic outlay comes from the $250 a quarter hair cut and color, which I’ve been doing since I was 15. I hate my hair color, a mousy ash brown, and since it has obliged me by starting to turn grey in my 20’s I feel justified in continuing to color it over.

16 years ago
Reply to  Disteza

Flamenco? Really?? Wow, b-) . I am fond of tango…I don’t do, mind you, but am fond, and admire those who can…but I have not “met” a flamenco dancer. (No matter how far I’ve cast-a-net to find them, ar har har….) Very cool.

My humor, not so cool. :-b

Disteza
16 years ago
Reply to  Shelley

Flamenco is the single hardest thing I’ve ever done, and that’s before you bring the castnets into it. I’ve had classes that caused my brain to go into nuclear meltdown to the point that I was not safe to drive afterwards. It’s rhythmically/musically demanding, mentally challenging, and physically punishing. I’ve done many forms of dance, but it seems like the hardest one is the one I’ve stuck with. Maybe I’m just a masochist. b-(

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Shelley

Yes, flamenco is seriously cool ^:)^

Disteza
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Well, first thing to do is to try and find classes in your area–I know there are options around NYC, DC and LA, and of course throughout the southwest there is a large community with it’s epicenter in NM. There’s a small flamenco community in Denver, you can always attend a local performance and see if it’s something that interests you. Feel free to talk to the performers once they’re done–they can usually help point you toward a local teacher or more information at least. A background in music or dance is especially helpful, but a sense of rhythm is is something you’ll need if you seriously want to delve. Once you know you want to take classes, get a decent pair of heeled dance shoes (check whether nails are allowed first!), and listen to as much flamenco music as you can (you need as much exposure as you can stand to the different palos, which are a combination of the musical structure, mood and rhythm). @};-

Chantal
16 years ago

I’m about half your age and I already think I spend a lot on things upkeep. The idea that it will only go up is scary!

If I can be slightly critical in the comments, why are you tanning? You seem well aware of health issues and also how things taffect the way you look but if anything gives your skin a leathery appearance it is tanning.

Karen G
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

My biggest indulgence (not including perfume) is the laser and BBL treatments I started about 3 years ago for rosacea. It has done wonders, but my laserist would flat out refuse to treat me if I tanned AT ALL.

16 years ago

I’m with you, though thankfully most things are a little cheaper on my corner of the big blue planet 🙂 Two months ago I spent about $ 3000 on a three year course of permanent laser hair removal and it felt like a fortune at the time, but now I’m thinking it was the best spent money ever… And still I do my mani myself every week because I’m a perfectionist! I guess it’s about finding the right balance and the best deal :d/

16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

As for advice, I live in Portugal so can’t really help, but take care in choosing: in the good places you’re supposed to have a medical consultation first and they might advise you against tanning for some weeks after each session. Depending on the, um… abundance and color of your body hair, they’ll tell you how many sessions you need. Since I have light mediterranean skin and hairy Hobbit legs, I went for the 3 year unlimited session pack for whole leg, bikini line and underarm to make sure every little bastard is zapped! The feeling is a weird cold/hot ticklish thing; usually if you find it too unbearable they switch to lower potency. But what a difference! I needed to wax every three weeks. I had my first laser session just before Xmas and very little grew back… and what did is mich finer. A good start!

Flowergirl
16 years ago

I am not being judgmental but do you tan your face when you in the tanning bed? If so, doesn’t that counteract the effectiveness of the facial lasers?

16 years ago

Doesn’t tanning undo the laser therapy?

Gretchen
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Still have to disagree with you on the tanning, Patty– keep the UV off your skin and you won’t have to spend nearly so much on the laser treatments! YES, tanning ages the epidermis, even though more slowly than burning. Some of us have more natural protection than others, but still. . . my Irish-American skin spent a lifetime in California (childhood and adolescence in the days before SPF ratings) and at age 35 I had a basal-cell skin cancer removed. So I’ve decided to accept my fair skin, and leave it that way!

Louise
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Patty-nope-no pass on the taning. Unless you have a real Vitamin D deficiency, even a light tan means damage. My mom had really stunning skin, even after years in the sun. Then she had skin cancer…very disfiguring…so, um, please stop? 🙁

lemonprint
16 years ago

I’m saving this one and reading all the comments, but before I have time to do that I’ll just say:

Yes, 41, and noticing that I’m now spending probably $200 per month on maintenance – just maintenance. And no, I’m not willing to stop spending it and let Nature have her way with me. And I’m pissed about it, because I do feel stuck. Would I rather spend that $200 on unnecessary lip glosses, perfumes, and handbags? You bet I would.

I’m not sure where it will all end. I don’t do many of the things you do but I couldn’t say anyone shouldn’t do them. I see the point and even feel the necessity. It’s not good. If the time comes when I can’t afford them, I feel like I will shrivel up like Dorian Gray’s picture, perhaps all in a day.

lemonprint
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

See, it sounds as though you’ve made a decision to pamper – to me that’s not maintenance. Maintenance is “If I don’t buy this eye cream I’m going to start seeing crow’s feet and I don’t want to see crow’s feet. Ergo, I am going to buy this eye cream rather than those lip glosses.” (Sorry to fixate on the lip glosses – I just refreshed “the usuals”, I carry about six of the stupid things.) And the health related things you mention and that folks are talking about in the comments – organic food and exercise are health maintenance, not cosmetic/beauty maintenance.

Which is just to say: I’m healthier than I was 20 years ago and I’d like to believe I’d still be lovely if I stopped with the creams and the makeup, but I’m not going to because I am a bit afraid I would shrivel up like the aforementioned pic of Dorian Gray. I have lovely skin but it is dry and I feel like I need Unguents.

Occasionally I’m now indulging in a trip to a cheap day spa, and I pay $50 per month for both a gym membership and good quality multivitamins combined – I can’t really fault those things. Again, they seem health-related, not vanity-related.

I live in the NY area where mani/pedis seem to be a way of life but I’ve still never gotten one. The one perfect feature I got free in this life was my fingernails, and I grew up a country girl – I do them myself. And on a good day I get my sweetheart to cut my toenails. 🙂

Pattie
16 years ago

I’ll be 51 in a month. I used to think of myself as low maintenance, but that has slowly changed over the last few years. While my monthly upkeep is not quite a high as yours, it’s close. I’m all for accepting aging gracefully, but i hate that tired, worn out look, so I keep fighting it.
My color is the most expensive, both in terms of money and – time. Foils every 3 months and base in between. AND, I have to drive to boulder to get them done because I can’t bear the thought of anyone else doing my color.
Don’t get manicures, but need pedicure every few months.
Filler 2x per year, just started with botox.
For years I worked out at home and was happy not to pay a gym membership, but suddenly, i need more help. I’m stiff and gravity is a bitch. so i joined a new club downtown, and started with pilates again. Too soon to know how much that will cost, i just want to stick with it. I shouldn’t need the extra help, but I do.
I’m not bad on costmetics, and am forcing myself to use cheaper skincare lines.
It really does add up, though. And while I feel very vain reading my list, i’m just not ready to let it go.

16 years ago

Hmmm…I’m older than you, blessed with good skin, but I think this cold and unforgiving winter has aged me five years. My focus has always been on keeping the body healthy and supple (after all, I’m an ex-Californian), so…expensive gym, but I spend much time there; lots of saunas and whirlpool baths and occasional massage. No cosmetic surgery so far. Yucky feet so I do my own pedicures. I work with acrylic paints, gels, sanding, etc so manicures are a lost cause anyway. Fact is, I still do most of my own upkeep. The last facial I had left me with a scar on my nose — this is not a city where one finds the top-tier personal-service people. I split the hair-coloring with my stylist (I’ve always been pretty good at hair). Since the recession we’re seriously cut back on things like travel. So I guess my primary indulgence is perfume, which makes up for a whole lot imho!

16 years ago

I was going to comment last night but got skeered:”>

I used to have your life, Patty, in terms of beauty outlay – then I changed my business and with it, my income, geographical/social location. After several years of severe depression, wherein I did next to nothing to keep myself up (Y’all saw me at the Scentsation – that is NOT how I normally looke(ed) – I am finally pulling myself out of my pity party and getting back to health, both physically and psychologically. With that is coming a renewed interest in how I look – but there’s been an adjustment in what I do/spend on myself.

My gym here costs $40/mo for a family membership, bless me!
Rodney Yee is HAWT! And I don’t have to drive 23 miles to do yoga (what did we do before DVD?)
I do my own feet now – had a pedi scare.
Occasional mani, for general upkeep – but working in construction, even though I don’t actually DO construction, is counterintuitive to painted-nail manicures.

Hair – a good cut a couple times a year then I have to snip off the ends every other day (y’all saw how curly my hair is – no other option, unless I want to pay Sally Herschberger to follow me around with a pair of scissors – hey!:-?

Face – def a facial couple times a year.

Now I’m getting into a lot of solo events that don’t cost a thing. My life is a bit chaotic so my indulgences are long walks – ALONE. I look forward to those daily walks!

But I like your outlay – it’s good to keep other people employed (I’m serious!) and if it makes you feel good and look good (and I’m with Denyse on why you are as lovely as you are) – keep it up!

xoxo >-)

16 years ago
Reply to  Musette

Rodney Yee. I remember one of my semi-annual Oprah hauntings happened to be on a day when he was on, and I thought, wait a minute, she knows about him? And she kept on talking about how hot he was, and he looked so cutely uncomfortable when she drooled on, erm, carried on…

…rats. This means I’ve gone public with the fact that I was the once, and now wish to be future, Queen of Yoga. Okay, if I can tackle the local park with my X-C skis, I can get back to being bendy and strong.

16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I know what you mean about class and motivation, Patty…I actually do/have done both. Exercise or yoga, with others or alone with my telly. Right now I’m finding that cardio and strength specific stuff work okay at home–I’d much rather be outside, walking or riding a bike or what have you–but this weather stymies a lot of that. For some reason, the yoga is not working so well at home right now. I need a friend to help motivate me into a classroom, where I’ll reconnect, and then it will all click. I think. (So thanks much for the encouraging words above. >:d< )

16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I would love a class but I have to wade through several thousand acres of cows to get to a class. Dangit.

So Rodney Yee it is. Thank the Lord he is SO HOT!

xo >-)

maidenbliss
16 years ago

Now I can stop feeling weird for living in the country, going on long power walks, doing yoga on my front steps (minimal traffic), meditating daily, curling up w a book in front of wood stove. Perfume is my only indulgence, well maybe good wine. Patty, it’s seriously scary to me to even ponder your budget probably because I once lived like that. Now, I am a minimalist, but before The Divorce 🙂 I’d say my life was very similar to yours, along w the condo in Vail-it IS so dry there! Flannels are my new fashion statement. Lee, are you my neighbor?

maidenbliss
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Having lived on both sides of the coin I actually do agree it’s lovely to pare it down. But I do miss Bailey, my horse:) and Whole Foods or even a decent co-op. I admire your candor in bringing forth the budget. Have you ever tried Renew by Melaleuca? I’ve got extremely dry skin, it’s an age thing for sure. Renew is about the best moisturizer I’ve tried.

maidenbliss
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Just about snuffed myself w my Pino Grigio-that was hilarious about WF! So true!!
I do know CO weather and it wreaks havoc on skin. That’s why I mentioned Renew. I’m not a huge fan of Melaleuca, but that particular moisturizer is the HG for me. You said it perfectly about priorities-being pampered, overall health, indulgence. Sunscreen, exercise, mediation/prayer, good friends and good food. Nirvana. You are right about Costa Rica and no need to slather. Tropics take care of that.

Astra
16 years ago

Patty, do you manage to get to both yoga and Pilates? I’m impressed. I keep thinking of trying Pilates but I love me my yoga and I don’t even do that as much as I want to.

16 years ago

That was very brave of you. 🙂 I’m not that brave, I’m only in my 30s but the most of my expenses go for things to keep me looking and feeling healthy and young (yes, I know I’m not exactly old, but if I don’t start now, it will be much harder later).
if you can afford it, I say go for it and enjoy. 🙂

Louise
16 years ago

Oh, I’m way below Lee in my upkeep-completly low-maintenance. Chop off my own hair, never wear makeup, disdain new clothes, no pampering at all…and my friends may now peel themselves off the floor or ceiling, as needed 8-| =))

Tommasina
16 years ago
Reply to  Louise

You and me, L: peas in a pod. Never colored my hair; I just hack off a few inches every so often standing with head upside-down over trash can, using medical scissors (brilliantly sharp). Never had manicure or pedicure in my life. Swap treatments with reflexologist friend (we both do a few different modalities) but do have occasional cranial osteopathy and acupuncture sessions for which I pay (not covered by insurance). Gym membership goes out automatically but is, I think, $35 / month. Buy Aveeno in bulk with coupons from Costco; clothes from thrift stores or swap parties I have with girlfriends 3-4 times a year. A couple of 2-3 day breaks a year in off season at high-rise cheapo beach motel (otherwise, would-be ‘vacation time’ is visiting my mother in France or MIL in TX). Perfumes mostly from swapping, or bought with saved-up birthday and Christmas money. DVDs and books borrowed from library. Money therefore mostly spent on vet bills, organic food, supplements, and those non-vacation vacations visiting the only family we have left – pore fings wot we are! Am now feeling cheap…

Louise
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Oh you sooo get me:x Sure, page me, we can talk facials and stuff;)

Louise
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

promise…I think you got enough here today 😉

Melissa
16 years ago

I don’t have the money or time for your upkeep regime, but I would enjoy it quite a bit! At 49, I would love to do more pampering than I do. If I had the time, I would tally up my spending-it would probably be more than I like. Some of it is frivolous and really not needed for “upkeep”. For instance, new shades of lipstick and eye-color.

But as for rest of the list, I only do a few of those things and some don’t cost me much at all. For instance, my stepdaughter does my hair and I generally do my own nails, if I bother at all beyond shaping. Exercise? Walking, weights at home and stretching.

Occasional fillers, when I have the $. A good quality, but not too spendy skin-care regime, with a mix of high-end and budget-conscious product.

Fragrance is my weakness, though I rarely buy now without splitting bottles with friends. Still, if I spent the time to go through all of my purchases, I would find plenty of areas to cut back if I wanted to be completely frugal. I just don’t want to be, at this point in my life.

Melissa
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I would love to do more of both! But I also think of pampering as a form of upkeep. The more I get, the better I feel, and the better I keep up! :d

Silviafunkly
16 years ago

I have always been surprisingly low maintenance in terms of beauty treatments (haircut once or twice a year, colour quarterly) but have detected an increasing expenditure trend in that department.

Those out-of-bed hairstyles that still looked cute a few years ago, are now simply shabby without any chic. Regular facials at a certain age do make a crucial difference, I see it in the friends who invest more in themselves. I need to shift gear.

I buy a lot of products though, way too many. Cosmetics, bath oils, make-up… a good portion of it, I never actually use: how silly is that?

Alison
16 years ago

Great topic! I’m 52 and spend a lot of time reading up on staying healthy and fit, for both myself and my kids. As a result my upkeep is focused more on working from the inside out. Must-haves:

Organic food – I attended the opening of the first Whole Foods Market in Houston Texas (store #3) in 1983 and have been shopping at WFM ever since. Prices about the same or slightly less than local farmers market. I buy local and seasonal.

Supplements – $50-$75 a month on top quality multi, fish oil, vitamin D and turmeric capsules so my brain doesn’t oxidize (dementia runs in the family)

Yoga – $110/mo. Baptiste warm power yoga works *everything* inside and outside, and is great for purifying your skin as well.

Sunscreen every day since I was in my teens – $10/mo. It shows, if I do say so (!).

Body creams and lotions – $25/year. I make my own out of bulk-purchased fair-trade shea butter mixed with olive oil and sometimes aloe gel. $12/pound, 2x a year.

Face care – $50/mo – Jane Iredale cosmetics, and Skin Biology treatment creams. Both are incredible value for the money.

Nails – a nail brush in the shower keeps cuticles at bay, and a glass nailfile does the rest.

16 years ago

I want your life!

I’m 50, but do not have the income (I work at a non-profit, trying to keep people from being homeless) – but I truly love to live vicariously through you.

cinnamon
16 years ago

I’m in my late 40s and becoming way more aware of the things that have lost something of their lustre. However, I think I’m just 1)naturally lower maintenance, 2) recently started a business and have next to no disposable income and 3) reject things like botox and fillers (not a moral position — just hate the idea unless there’s a good solid medical reason).

I replace the mascara frequently. Everything else lives a longer life span, though I treat myself to gel eyeliners because I’ve found cheap good ones from GOSH.

Like carmencanada, I get the hair cut by someone I adore and trust every 8 weeks, which is my biggest outlay. I’m starting to think about covering the grey, but I’m not there yet and when I am I’ll do it at home.

E45 cream all over, including face and neck, at £5 a tub seems to work fine. But I couldn’t forsake my Shu Uemura cleansing oil, which is both gentle on the skin and feels utterly luxurious.

I lust after all your acupuncture, massage, etc — and if I had the dosh I’d add in reflexology to that list. Besides the haircuts, those are the things I could really imagine throwing money at.

Lee
16 years ago

$100 or thereabouts. More if I buy perfume, though that’s erratic nowadays – I’m more likely to sell some. What can I say – I’m cheap, live in the countryside, have skin an olive oil aficionado would be proud of, yoga is on nights that I’m often away with work.

I wear SPF 25+ when it’s sunny, work outdoors a lot, and grow most of my own organic vegetables and fruit. I’m a 21st century hippy at heart.

Lee
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

That’s a fair point. Being a townie who’s grandpa grew his own prize-winning stuff, it has very different connotations for me.

And as I said up there – implicitly at least – time to look after yourself the way you want to!

Winifreida
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Farm kid too Patty; but I spent a lot of my life trying to get back and now finally have!
But yeh, it was hard work in our parents generation. Now everything’s mechanised, they even have cow-milking robots!
Working on my little farm is another thing that re-awakened my perfumista genes…the wonderful smells of everything in the countyside – vegetation, smoke, animals, its part of the human psyche I’m sure.:)

Fiordiligi
16 years ago

Patty, I’m not sure I even want to think about this! I don’t have any of the fillers, lasers, tanning and that sort of thing but I live in London which is hugely expensive as you know, so cut and colour costs £200+ every 5 weeks, mani/pedi £130 every 3 weeks and facial £200 a month just for starters, then there is my medical pedicure every month at £110. I am not going to disclose my makeup habit….and yes, I do own a Birkin. And I’m certainly not going to talk about perfume expenditure, although that doesn’t count, does it?

OK, better get working and earn some money now!

Sweetie, we’re of similar vintage, but my upkeep budget, which I’ve never calculated, comes nowhere near that. Even if I could afford it, I simply don’t have the time.
Shampoo,face and body creams come from the pharmacy, exercise is my Pilates mat routine and lots of walking, I don’t want a tan, I’ve let my hair grow back to its natural, premature silver, I do my feet, the only cosmetics replaced regularly are foundation, mascara and lipstick. My sole luxury is a 125 euro haircut every 6th week because I wear it in a bob and that has to be precision-cut.
That said, you looked fabulous last time I saw you in Paris, so it’s money well spent — though most of the fabulousness is due to your vital spirit!

Winifreida
16 years ago

Hey Carmen! I went back to grey a few years ago as I got sick of the dyeing! I’ve always had this great dark mop of Celtic waves, and at the time I stopped dyeing I cut it all off! Then I just let it grow back, its so thick and healthy now and feels great and strangely makes my face looker younger? Incredibly liberating….
And I think my perfume collecting obsession has taken place of the fascination with makeup and clothes…although I love lipstick still.
I think the fact that I got over suntanning relatively young for a white Aussie has helped in the skin stakes…

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Winifreida

Yes, lipstick is the ONE thing I really like and will buy just for the heck of it. Well, besides perfume, anyway. But I have to really fall in love first, and I’m not easy to woo [-(

carter
16 years ago

If the color of my hair was a gorgeous as yours, Denyse, I’d drop the salon outlay in a hot minute! I resent the hell out of it and I’d love to do even less rather than more in terms of spending time and cash on this type of stuff.

I fritter away my share of money, but not on cosmetics or procedures or (heaven forbid) tanning, simply because I’d feel like a hamster on a treadmill and truth be told, I just don’t want any it.

Masha
16 years ago

Well, I live in a tiny town that has 10 cows and 20 sheep, maybe 25 goats for every human. The critters don’t seem to mind too much what I look like (I’m regularly licked by cows, is that a beauty treatment?), and I have no access to anything on your list except the lotion (Bag Balm and its Swiss equivalents are big around here, humans can use them, too). Military haircuts are available quarterly for those who can’t do it themselves. I suppose living where I do saves a pile of money! (But it’s best not to have too many mirrors in the house- 😉

Masha
16 years ago
Reply to  Masha

I forgot to add- for exercise, I run up and down the Alps, which are conveniently placed just behind my backyard. It’s free, but the shoes are kind of pricey (100 euros a pair, and they only last 6 months!). So running shoes and perfume are my big vices. I don’t know how the cows feel about my perfume, the rabbits don’t like it, but the goats mostly do.:d

16 years ago
Reply to  Masha

Bag Balm is the super cool uber-fabulous secret potion around here. It’s funny to see people who wouldn’t have thought about it once wrap their heads around the concept…as they put that fabulous green tin into their cart…

16 years ago

Oh! I didn´t even know that some of those thing you mentioned even exist. 😮 Some of them sounds really… thrilling kind of. And what ever makes you happy and you can afford it´s OK in my opinion.

My keep up budget is like if you divide yours with/20. And then I´ve counted my perfume spending as well. Looking forward to becoming grannie to No 2 this spring, I think I´m doing quite allright anyway.

Elizabeth
16 years ago

I have always thought I made a good living, but I guess not! That’s way beyond my means. I do buy (a lot of expensive) perfume, and an occasional new lipstick. But I would cut my own hair if I could reach the back. :d And I have had a pedicure twice in my life.While it did look nice, it just never enters my consciousness to go to someone for anything beauty-related. I guess my hubby should feel lucky that my only habit is perfume. 🙂

Lisa
16 years ago

Well, normal is just what the norm is doing. I am so low maintenance it’s not even funny. This look I have now, I have slipped into slowly and it’s comfortable and it’s me and at this age – smack in the middle of 40 and 50, it’s all about what’s going on inside because the outside is going downhill no matter how big of a fight I put up. I figure if celebrities can’t stop it, how could little old me? I wouldn’t mind the acupuncture and rolfing though! LOL

Rappleyea
16 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

” it’s all about what’s going on inside ”

Wise woman and I totally agree. I find the older I get, the less I spend on the outer (except organic food, which as stated above, IS normal for me) and the more $$ I give to charity (SO much need in the world) and the more time I spend meditating.

Not to get too serious on a perfume blog, but at what point did women buy into the idea of “we’re not worthy” looking exactly the way we look without doing all of this? Men (most anyway) don’t do it. True self esteem is not based on the outer.

Lee
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I think you’ve made a VERY valid justification right there, P – not that you need to!

16 years ago
Reply to  Lee

What Lee Said.

xoxo >-)

dissed
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I would do the same.

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Rappleyea

I understand what you mean, Rappleyea :)>-

Rappleyea
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Patty – I’m all for pampering, nurturing and especially being proactive and taking good care of our health. I was more thinking about the paint, injections, surgeries, etc. I still struggle with this. I think I look better with mascara, but why do I think that? It’s a cultural thing, an artificial definition of “better”.

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Yes, all of the things you cite are artificial adornments, but sociologists would argue that they are all attempts to conform or gain approval, and I would have to agree. I also believe that there’s a vast difference between a surgical procedure and a girdle.

As for “judgment,” we are all judging each other, all of the time.

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

I am saying that society determines what normal is, what beautiful is, what ugly is, and, to the extent that we conform to that determination, we are seeking acceptance. That doesn’t mean it’s good or bad or wrong or right, it simply means that we all want to be accepted to varying degrees. If sagging skin and thick waistlines were considered by society to be beautiful, most of us would aspire to have sagging skin and thick waistlines. Society’s idea of what is desirable becomes our own, by and large.

The extent to which an individual will go in order to achieve this “ideal” is, to my way of thinking, the extent to which he or she has bought into the notion that opinion of others is important, and I simply do not accept the argument that risking one’s life — and surgery, including lipo, is indeed risking one’s life — is not an extreme proposition or that the person who is willing to do so does not seek acceptance in a fairly big way.

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  carter

Just want to add that I am in the adornment, beautification business, and I don’t think it’s a bad way to live, I simply understand what it is that motivates people to buy what I’m selling.

carter
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Agreed. But one would argue that in most locales, driving is a necessary risk, and here in NYC, merely walking is dangerous; these things are one does primarily in order to live in the world.

dissed
16 years ago

Haircolor and cut are about half that, but the cost of living’s less, here. Do my own hands and feet, because I don’t like other people messing with them, same with waxing. Exercise is the track and pilates dvds (treadmill died, haven’t replaced). Makeup’s a lot less, but I have a foundation habit. Skincare’s pricey, but it goes a long way. I’ve never botoxed/filled/lasered but if I could, I would have everything lifted and lose a whole lot of skin. How do we end up with extra skin, anyway? I’m 53, healthy, and lucky so far.

dissed
16 years ago
Reply to  Patty

Epilating — is that a word? — is easier, and probably costs less, and I don’t know why I sort of alternate that with waxing and shaving. Epilating works great on the armpits. It only hurts the first time.

Robin R.
16 years ago

P.S. I just realized 5k every three months is 20k each year. Then you’ve got clothes, shoes, bags, scarfs, undies, rent/mortgage. Oh, and food, I guess. I’d love to have all those things in my life, P, but I’m trying to figure out what kind of salary would support that (and you have children, yes? no? Those critters and their piano lessons do cost), oh, and add a bit of travel, and contributing to your retirement savings plan, and charitable contributions. . .and a car and insurance and gas and maintenance. . .and a movie or two and the theatre and some concerts and CDs and household supplies and . . .

You must make a lot more money than I do, sweet P. Or you have a sugar daddy somewhere you’re not telling us about. 😕

Robin R.
16 years ago

No botox, Patty? (I’m 52, I’m serious. It’s a must for me.)

carter
16 years ago

I am older than you are, Patty, and the only things from your list that are also on mine are:

1) haircolor @ $350 per quarter
2) cut @ $80 per quarter
3) lotions, which means a huge tube of Eucerin Calming Creme @ I dunno, maybe $10 per quarter?

I probably spend about $100-200 per year (not quarter, YEAR) on essential and non-essential cosmetics combined, and mebbe $400 per year, absolute tops, on ‘fumes.

I exercise using The Bar Method on DVDs plus walks in the park and around town, my husband does great massage, and I’ve been buying organic and locally grown for so long that it *is* regular food to me by now, so I don’t really think about it, and frankly all food in NYC is expensive.

But beyond that…well…there IS no beyond that $-)

Heather Anderson
16 years ago

Hmmm. I can’t afford to spend that much, so I don’t and I don’t look so hot, either. But I’d do it if I could, so no judgement here. I’m in Los Angeles, and I bet there are a lot of women out here who spend more on maintenance than that. I’m also going to point out that several of these ( yoga, pilates, acupuncture, massage) have as many health benefits as beauty benefits. All that de-stressing will probably save you in medical costs down the line, seriously. Being healthy is not high-maintenance behavior, in my book.